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If You Guys Wouldnt Take Back A Semi Healthy Tmac You're Crazy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by astros148, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. kawins

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    Wake up
     
  2. llRainmanll

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    you sound like an idiot, a 75% mcgrady is what we've been seeing all season, so why would you want him at that stage? i'd take him when he's healthy and only healthy, but if he comes back next season with this issue again, then i'll be glad he'll be leaving in the '10 offseason, but i hope he comes back with a vengeance! :D
     
  3. BONIERO1576

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    C'mon man, he straight up quit on his team. He had a team of doctors telling him that his knee would hurt but that it was alright for him to play on it. He tries taking time off and the knee still hurts. So he goes to NY to find a doctor who finally tells him to have surgury and decides to announce this the day before the trade deadline when he knows he is on the table to be sent to a bottom dwelling team, the year before the contract is up.

    You keep talking about last season, well great, he was a bright spot in an otherwise crappy playoff preformance. But that was a product of his talent, hard work and heart? Dubious at best. He has never showed any of those things. To me he's actually someone who could have accomplished a lot more if he had put in the work. As proof of this I will wager that he takes all of the 12 months and then some to come back from this surgury because I am positive he is going to applying his same ethic into rehabbing the knee as he has put in to sharpening the rest of his game.
     
  4. OpportunityCost

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    ...and on the topic of proving things, Tmac has proved that when he is in our line up, we will not advance past the 1st round of the playoffs.

    team chemistry = Superman
    kryptonite = Tmac
     
  5. T-Yao

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    how the heck is he going to do any better "semi healthy?" like are you serious?

    the offense looks much smoother with tmac out of the line up
    sure its against the bobcats and nets..but still, the ball is moving around most of the time, sometime artest takes it himself...but with tmac...he holds the ball for like 20 seconds than he either puts up a bad shot, throw it to someone with like 4 seconds expecting them to do something which doesnt most of the time causing it "their fault" the pocession was bad...tmac plays 1 good game and 10 bad games...sure he'll come back and run so fast and play defense 1 game, the next 10 will be slow, miss shots, no defense, and he'll come up with a new injury, probably...um what? broken fingernail?

    nuff' said
     
  6. DaDakota

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    I would trade a healthy Tmac for players that fit better in the Adelman read and react system.

    DD
     
  7. T-Yao

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    i dont know all the "inside" stuff about tmac back in orlando, but hell all i know is that they dont like him when they traded him
    he worked his ass off? yeah, all those videos we all watched on how hes rehabbing, working out in the summer,..and? and? nothing happened really except more injury

    last year he played with a bad shoulder fyi
     
  8. OpportunityCost

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    I am going to go out on a limb here...but I am willing to bet that Tracy didn't do so well in his high school chemistry class.
     
  9. OpportunityCost

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    "If You Guys Wouldnt Take Back A Semi Healthy Tmac You're Crazy"

    If that's the case, I need to be committed then. Seriously, bring the straight jacket and suit me up!

    No way in the world would I bring back the chemistry extinguisher!
     
  10. Seth

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    I wouldn´t even take a healthy tmac back on this team, i prefer to trade him for expirings and younger prospects, want it or not, he is a chemistry killer, no team ever suceeded with him, and he was never a beast in the PO as many want to see it.

    His FG has always been below average for the top guys, only Iverson is worse, and AI still has more accomplishments than Tmac.

    You now, you can always count luck, teammates, rivals, or whatever you want, but there is a reason why this guy never won a PO series, or why he has never had the image of a leader, or why he has never been considered a winner.

    Now his time has past, the team has already count him out, and yes, i do think our chances of getting into the PO are much better without TMAC than with him.
     
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    YOUR CRAZY FOR EVEN WANTING HIM BACK.
     
  12. aelliott

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    Interesting statement. Too bad the facts don't back it up. Let's look at the last playoff series where both Yao and TMac played. In the 2007 Utah series here's the stats:

    McGrady 25.29 pts, 5.86 reb, 7.29 ast, 39% fg%

    Yao 25.14 pts, 10.29 reb, 0.86 ast, 44% fg%

    You call 25/10 not showing up? Utah obviously knew that McGrady and Yao would be taking most of the shots and their defense was geared to stop them. That's why both of the fg% are lower, but Yao's is still much better.
     
  13. kmart9419

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    What I remember is Tmac taking a stupid ass shot from 3 point land near the end of the game with nobody in position to rebound. Going for the home run like he does every game. I say good riddance to Tmac. Hated his shot selections.

    Back then, he was the "Man." Now he is a cripple. He can take his horrid shot selections to another team. Good riddance.

    Oh yeah, he can take his smiling and laughing with the opposing team with him.
     
  14. astros148

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    he had okur guarding him which didnt even count, Tmac had Ak47 to deal with who is a above average defender
     
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    uhm Yao had to deal with AK more than tmac had to since AK would always leave his defender to come double yao and get weak side blocks.


    Tmac was primary guarded by Derek Fisher, Ronnie Brewer and Matt Harpring none of whom are known for their defense. (cept their flopping) and yes I will agree on occasion AK, but Sloan wanted AK guarding Shane since he could help the most off of Shane to help double Yao. If anything Tmac should have killed each and everyone of those defenders. Fisher and Brewer were too small to guard him, Harpring too slow.


    So please get your facts straight before saying something like that.
     
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    He had okur, a faster more agile center who gives Yao problems with his speed. I don't know if you've ever watched a Rockets gmae before, but Yao excels when he plays true centers who play him straight up like Howard or Shaq.

    McGrady coming back to this team is the worst possible option. He's a former superstar who tries to play like a superstar. He holds the ball and just dribbles around helplessly. When he's healthy it's ok because he can be spectacular. But when he's not he might as well suit up for the otehr team because he's going to do nothing but mess up our offensive flow.

    I wouldn't even want a healthy Tmac back. I'm tired of watching "superstar" Kobe type basketball. I want team ball like we've had the last couple games where everybody is involved. Such a systme will never coexist with Tmac.

    I wish him well in the future and I hope he finds a niche somewhere and has a good few seasons left in him, but I don't want it to be in a Rockets jersey.
     
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    Well, I'd rather keep a healthy Tmac and have a legit shot at a ring.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Deciding to have career-threatning surgery isn't quiting on your team buddy. That's ridiculous - and a spurious acquisition at best based entirely on speculation.

    If he doesn't work hard at his rehab, he will never make it back, not a chance. Heck, even if he does rehab hard he might not make it back. So if your assessment of t-mac is true, you won't ever have to deal with him again.

    But if he makes it back, you can't say he didn't work hard. Because that's the only way you make it back from microfracture surgery on your knee.
     
  19. T-Yao

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    making excuses just like good ol' tracy
     
  20. HTown_TMac

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    truth hurts
     

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