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If You Guys Wouldnt Take Back A Semi Healthy Tmac You're Crazy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by astros148, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. J.R.

    J.R. Member

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    No thanks to a "semi-healthy" T-Mac. He needs to be 100% or keep resting. No need for botched layups or him keeping this team off focus. No more of needing to figure out who is available night in and night out. We're good with what we have. The team is playing well and lets keep it that way. Go get your micro surgery T-mac and call it that. No thanks for a return.
     
  2. tmacandyming1

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    I agree. Tmac carried us to playoffs and I can't blame him for our first round exit last year.
     
  3. jump shooter

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    Baller, I have been saying he'll be back from day 1 since all this knee microfractive surgery B.S started. There are only two ways I would let him back to the team and one of them is what you say about a reduced role on the team and the 2nd would be that the rockets require him to see a sports pyschologist. Most of his problem is in his head and its a waste of time in my view that if he doesn't get some psychological help it will all be a waste of time.
     
  4. pdewalt

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    And were any of the above the center pieces to their respective teams?
    Mutombo defensively may be but definitely not offensively.
     
  5. RockingRox

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    The problem is he has not been able to settle his bull****. :(

     
  6. BornRedIn87

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    He averaged 12/14 that year when he took this team to the finals.
    Thats pretty damn good on both ends.
    And make no mistake about it, he was just as much of the reason they made it to the finals as it was AI. AI never went anywhere close to the finals without him on his team.

    Deke is the biggest fan of the Rockets, and in the playoffs can be that presence that keeps the team level headed because everyone on this team respects him. Mainly because when he was in his prime, he had BEEN THERE.

    Ide much rather see Deke up off the bench cheering after every basket his team mates make than Tmac sitting at the end of the bench wasting air looking dis-interested because everyone is cheering for the team, and not for him
     
  7. tsunami

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    stop whining the b!!tching thread OP! It's not we don't want TMAC back, he himself declared that he wouldn't be back this season. Not the fans, not the coach, not his teammates!
     
  8. baller4life315

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    Those that are skeptical about him accepting this proposed reduced role have every right to be since it doesn't seem in his nature to be anything but "the man" on a basketball team. The good news is management has all the leverage in this matter. They've made it abundantly clear they're ready to move forth with out him, so essentially by the team allowing McGrady back they are indeed doing him a huge favor. Get him to accept this role (Wafer's minutes) off of the bench, stamp into his mind what 'Adelman Ball' is all about and get him to buy into this new system where he trusts teammates and isn't shouldering so much pressure. I am seriously curious if this could work. What if he flourishes in a reduced role where isn't asked to do EVERYTHING? What if playing on deep team that isn't so "It's on me" is exactly what he needs?

    I know this idea is somewhat radical and very unpopular. For good reason too. All the same, I encourage everybody to look at the bigger picture and especially once the playoffs come. We've all lived through the utter horror of watching a one-trick-pony like Luther Head try to highlight our bench the past two years. Wafer could potentially be no different and i've already made my point about who I would rather have coming off the bench in a meaningful game between McGrady and Wafer.
     
  9. sirbaihu

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    Is someone riding someone's T-Bag, perchance?
     
  10. tming

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    yea like during the introduction of the games, he says "it's time." ;)
     
  11. mms

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    The team might ask Tmac back just before the POs. Then play him like 15 mins a game off the bench. Surely we can beat teams like POR/NOH/DAL w/o Tmac or w/ a downgraded Tmac. Everybody will be happy! In the 2nd round, we can start Tmac so he will take all the bullets after we got beaten by LA or SA.

    Fantastic!
     
  12. tmac2k8

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    i would not want mcgrady in...even if he is healthy bc i would not trust that he is healthy....true, a healthy mcgrady increases our chances and makes us better but we wont get that mcgrady this year, even if he says he is back, just like he did a month ago during all that conditioning crap saying "u better hate now while u can" and all that talk...the team is playing well now, why bring him back in and mess everything up. IMO, ppl counting out the rockets are not thinking clearly, last year we were hopeful even though we had no YAO...we still lost 4-2...not like we got swept....this year we have 2 all star caliber players, and everyone else is better, in addition to brent barry and von wafer. everyone wants to focus on mcgrady on how our season is over now bc he no longer a factor...
     
  13. DudeWah

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    I agree...

    But at this point, the whole situation has gone on far too long.
    We're winning now, and taking a risk like bringing Tracy back doesn't sound good at the moment..
     
  14. motionsiknes

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    You guys ganged up on astro too much.

    McGrady is talent, bottomline. 08-09 McGrady is not. Him playing will hurt the team and be a distraction as well.

    But if McGrady is semi-healthy, I'd take him back. I do not know why many ppl here in Clutchfans have bought into the idea that even a healthy McGrady would be detrimental to the team. I mean wth?

    When Yao went down last year, McGrady had all the reason to quit. I mean there is no way he can pass the first round with the nature of the competition of the West last year. The West was stacked and when you look at talent of those 8 teams last year, Houston was the odd ball out and likely the first to be eliminated. In fact many ppl predicted the West first round series would go 6-7 games. If I remember correctly. The LA-Den went 4-0, both the SA-Pho & NO-Dal went 4-1 while the Yao-less and Alston-less Rockets managed to go to six games!! McGrady had every reason to quit but he didn't.

    There is no way, ABSOLUTELY NO WAY, you win 22 games, 10 games w/o Yao playing selfish basketball. No way in hell. There is a reason why it was accomplished only twice in NBA history. You win 22 straight games by playing unselfish, SMART basketball and IMO the most important aspect was having faith and 'believing' in your entire team. Mcgrady, being the leader was doing exactly that. If you disagree with that, then I can't persuade you anymore. Compare him with Tim Duncan and Spurs. I would say they are the most disciplined, team-oriented and smartest team out there but THEY have never won 22 straight. When you really think about it, the Rockets team last year was an anomaly. The forces against it were too great. Fortunately, and for you haters out there, this included Tmac, the whole team bought into the "total is greater that the sum of its parts" concept. Many ppl are blaming McGrady this year because his laziness affected the whole team. Well in last year's run, he didn't showed laziness. He showed heart and determination. When a athlete expel these two qualities, his character should never be tested. What more could a fan possibly want?

    He is unhealthy, it's a fact. Now if he lied, then that's a different story.

    But regarding his character, don't. It boggles the mind.
     
  15. BornRedIn87

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    Would you like to join him so he doesnt feel so lonely?
     
  16. goodbug

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    How about worry about first round first?

     
  17. motionsiknes

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    Yea I dont mind siding with the correct poster.
     
  18. dachuda86

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    You're crazy to think that drugging up tmac for play offs and over paying him is a great idea. Let's get some actual healthy players that don't need surgery and painkillers.
     
  19. bkg

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    why not let him play?? because he has to dominates the offense to be effective and is a mental cream puff that will never make it out of the first round. thats why.
     
  20. bkg

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    tmac is a beast when healthy? so i guess he aint been healthy for 7 years?
     

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