If we draft Sheppard or Castle, what does that mean for Jalen Green?

That "3rd year leap" DID happen for Jalen. Both for Jalen Johnson and Jalen Suggs.

 

Castle just feels so redundant with Amen already on the roster. Amen is a better, more athletic version of Castle. Really hope we don't go that route. We desperately need shooting/spacing, as well as a lead Guard to take over for FVV in a year or two. Reed kills two birds with one stone. He's the obvious choice here imo.

 

We really only disagree on one point. I think he will eventually improve his shot, whether it be with us or somebody else. You don’t and I think that is a very valid argument. Probably a difference in personalities, I tend to be patient and optimistic, which I’m not sure are personality traits that you demonstrate on this forum.

 

I think it's that I require evidence for belief, seemingly you don't.

Jalen Green is the same streaky rather than good shooter he was 4 years ago. He's given no reason to think he's changing any time soon.

If he does, awesome, but there's no reason to think it's likely.

 

We do not need to draft Castle, he is a nice player….but he cannot shoot. We need Clingan or Reed…one give you elite shooting and the other one give you elite shot blocking….either pick will enhance this team next year….both works for this team

 

why? from ignite to his rookie,2nd, and 3rd yr his avg 3 FG% never improved may actually have gotten worse

 

Because he is 22 with a good coaching staff and seems to work hard. Confidence is hard to come by in the NBA and two years of his development were wasted. It may be wishful thinking, but I think evidence would suggest that the guys that know his work ethic are betting on it for another half a season if not longer. There have been plenty of examples set forth on this forum of guys who took longer to develop than Jalen.

 

Ok so we did draft Reed Sheppard. And turns out it means nothing for Jalen Green.

 

This is the same dude glazing 31% FG and 27% from 3. He mad at "streaky scoring" but loves consistent bad scoring. Requires evidence for belief but believes Reed has almost perfect shooting mechanics while he is bricking at 41% TS and 27% from 3.

You can see the hypocrisy very clearly.

 

My guy, this is a basketball conversation, you know you don't belong and have nothing of value to contribute.... so why keep embarrassing yourself?

 

Third year leap happened for Jalen Green too, just not for the entire season. But 4th year leap is better than a 5th year leap. And Jalen has been responsible for some critical wins this season where Rockets skyrocketed into a top 5 team in competitive West.

 

LOL you are the one with the wrong takes as shown here. Just cant admit you are wrong twice, first on JG and then on RS.

 

Some people don't realize other teams take the good with the bad. They think the grass is greener somewhere else because they didn't put it under a microscope like they do with our players.

You have to have the experience of reading several teams' active message boards to begin understanding that there are some people who just whine no matter what. There were hoards of Nuggets fans warning against building around a young chubby Jokic, there were even some who said it's a mistake to trade Nurkic. There are people who whine about Cade, Banchero, Tatum, Brown, Mobley, Mitchell, etc.

Some people just can't let go of the vibe of hypercriticism. We colloquially call this Hating. That's not just a person who's ok with criticism. That's a person who actually needs to criticize something to distract from something they don't want to think about since they were kids. Those people will need the most evidence in the world to change their minds and they will be the very last 1% who let go even if undeniable proofs emerge - all the while, they think being in that 1% is about caution rather than ego. "I'm willing to be happy if these extra stringent measures are met under a microscope." We don't need their buy in lol. The world has to move on, we don't stay back for people like that.

Stephon Castle would barely get minutes here, especially if they're struggling with him on a rebuilding team. If you think the Spurs are strict on turnovers, imagine what it would be like under the ex-spurs anti-turnover god king Ime Udoka on a winning team. Swap Castle and Whitmore. Castle would just get Cam Whitmore type opportunities here, he wouldn't have made the ASG and the haters would converge on him as though there's no hope. No IQ, no shot, overrated defense they would say. They would be wishing we drafted Cam Whitmore who had some big games on a tanking team.

This is the background from which I predicted we're sitting on the most underrated and artificially statistically deflated roster in the NBA after 2 years of Silas. It was obvious we would be the big turnaround team and we would have greater internal improvement than pretty much any other team. They kept telling me "a coach can't affect that much, they are what they are, every team is going to improve roughly the same internally".

The only reason these turnarounds are surprising to them is because they never acknowledged that our prospects were artificially deflated under Silas and KPJ. When you force losing, mathematically you force individual statistics down with it. That makes everyone look worse than they actually are. So the combined effect of re-inflation AND organic internal improvement was always going to create a big bounce in wins and less opportunities for some young guys.

 

Interesting so you dont believe bad shooters can become good shooters so why you keep making excuses for Reed Sheppard? You might be on to something here 27% from 3 is def among the league's worst.

Jalen meanwhile already at 35.6% which is his career high...

 

Again, this is a basketball conversation.... that's why you don't understand.