Carter w/o injuries and T-Mac would be ideal. But one thing we tend to forget is that guys on this list, or most of the guys we want, have never played with a big-force in the paint. SF has had 2 seasons of learning how to play with Yao, getting guys that have never played with a real C are going to have the same problems that SF has had. I don't think trading SF is the best thing for the Rox, getting a PF-adding depth-and a MORE improved YM are the things that the Rox need.
took the words out of my mouth....stop pointing @ Steve as the problem with this team....its not all Steve's fault....this team is just way too inconsistent...bring in a solid PF who can score AND defend, and the rockets will be fine. I do like the idea of bringing in Brent Barry though. Great post Gucci.
I’m thinking if CD decides to trade Steve it’ll be because he believes this team simply doesn’t have the talent level or upside to ever be better than 29 teams. A 1-for-1 swap of Steve for Allen/Mcgrady/Lewis,etc. doesn’t significantly increase the talent level of this team. Trading for role players that fit better obviously doesn’t upgrade the talent level. The only trade I think that could possibly really increase the talent on this team and hopefully give the team a chance at one day being the best in the league is a package involving cap space, high draft picks, and a young unproven player with a high ceiling. Then hope that the draft pick and unproven player pans out and that Yao can entice high profile free agents to sign here the way Hakeem used to.
I don't think the Rockets must trade SF either. But for the team to transform into a consistent offensive team we must improve ball handling. If that means Steve and Cat spend the summer improving just that aspect of their game then they stay. If we get a full-time ballhandler to fill the point and either SF or Cat comes off the bench is that going to work? I don't know. If not then one would have to go.
If Orlando is smart They would not let T-mac go without someone taking Hill T-mac + Hill = SF, Cat, Cato + TE WOULD YOU DO THAT? Is T MAC worth holding Hill? This deal works because Orlando INSTANTLY becomes a playoff team Best back court in the EAST and a LEGIT CENTER [don't they have Gooden? or even Howard] SF - CAT - smallforward - Gooden - Cato AIN'T BAD to me pg - TMAC - HILL [if healthy doubtful] - pf/Mo T - Yao would not be a bad line up Hill is OFT hurt but even Half a Hill ain't bad [look at his numbers before he limped out] He would not be asked to do as much either BUT loosely translated - we need a FRANCHISE player What would HINRICH have done in this series we just had that would have won us ONE more game? Rocket River
Francis & Yao's pick and roll is very effective if it is done correctly. THeir pick & rolls was the only thing that kept rockets going against Lakers and Laker didnt have answer for it. Yao is not Hakeem and we cant expect to surround Yao with 3 pointers. Ray Allen hasnt proved anything in my opinion and I havent seen him playing against a big man. Dumping into a big man in the post requires practice and skill. Just because you are a good pure 3 pointer does not mean you will suceed playing with great post up player. This is why i think Robert Horry is such a valuble comodity in a championship team with good center. I want to trade Mo Tay with Horry if it's possible.. +_+
If Orlando is smart They would not let T-mac go without someone taking Hill Let's think about this. McGrady can opt out after next season. Orlando knows that and so do every other team in the league. So, if nobody agrees to take Hill's contract, then Orlando should do what? Just let him walk at the end of the year for nothing? That doesn't seem too smart to me. Orlando doesn't have the leverage here, McGrady does. Nobody is going to give up much for him unless he agrees to sign an extention with that team. That means that McGrady isn't going anywhere that he doesn't want to go. Otherwise, he just plays out next year and walks. Orlando is going to have to make the best out of this they can. If McGrady said "trade me to Houston" (and I have absolutely no evidence that he would ever do that), then what's Orlando going to do? After losing Shaq for no compensation, I can guarentee you that Oralando will not make the same mistake with McGrady. If Orlando decided to deal McGrady, they won't get equal value back, but they'll get good talent. What would HINRICH have done in this series we just had that would have won us ONE more game? I assume that you're refering to a trade involving Hinrich and Francis. Well, it's hard to say unless we know what other players we got in that deal. I haven't seen anybody propose a straight up Hinrich for Francis deal. It's always been Hinrich and somebody else. So, until we determine who that other player or player would be it's hard to say. Besides, if you want to play that type of "what if?" game, the real question is how would we do against all of the other teams in the league, not just the Lakers. The Lakers are the best matchup for Francis in the entire league. We do ok against them. The real question is how would we do against all of those teams that won't let us drive the ball to the middle. Those are the teams that we really struggle with.
Also, Orlando has the #1 pick, so you could add Okafor to their lineup, making it better. SF-Cat-Cato-TE for T-Mac/Hill might be giving too much up. T-Mac would be unbelievable, but Hills contract is long, and expensive. We could hope for retirement, but it would be dumb for him to do so.
We here this every year now with max free agents, how they supposedly don't want to play for their current team. There will be no opting out. We heard how Duncan was going to go play with McGrady. We heard how Kidd didn't like New Jersey. We heard how WEBBER hated Sacramento ... McGrady's going to take the money. If Orlando won't work a sign-and-trade, he'll STAY with Orlando. The money is too large to pass up. Orlando would be dumb to trade him. But feel free to keep dreaming.
Turn the ball over less than 21 times? Play defense against Derek Fisher? Make more than one 3pt shot in more than one game?
McGrady is going to get the money no matter where he goes. The difference between Kidd, Duncan, Webber and McGrady, is that the other three all play on winning teams. As he has said multiple times, T-Mac wants to win, and that's not going to happen in Orlando.
True, he'll get 'the money' no matter where he goes. The trick is, he'll probably get around 30 more million if he signs with Orlando. Nobody has passed it up yet. It has nothing to do with winning. The Spurs wanted Kidd - who do you think had a better shot at a championship - SA or the Nets? Why didn't Duncan go to Orlando?
Orlando's GM has already said if Mcgrady doesn’t commit to them this summer they are trading Mcgrady. If the Rockets trade for Mcgrady, he could resign with the Rockets for as much as he could get if he had stayed in Orlando. Kidd’s situation was different because he would be signing with the Spurs as a free agent, not resigning with them with bird rights.
Thanks for the info ... that does change things a bit. I still think Orlando would be stupid to trade the guy. I don't see them doing it.
If Moses and Kareem can be traded, anything can happen. with so many superstars (C-Web, VC, PP, AI, and SF), second tie stars (Marion and K-mart) avaiilable this summer, there could never be more possibilty that T-Mac can be traded.
The way Orlando lost Shaq without getting anything in return may be a factor. They probably don’t want to get screwed over again.
It's more about T-Mac wanting to opt out and Orlando is forced to trade him in fear of losing him for nothing. T-Mac wants to go to a team with stars where he doesn't have to shoulder all the burden of carrying a team. Same money, less workload and possibly better results, it's a no brainer for T-Mac to try out the options. Unless Orlando can get a legit star in this offseason, which is difficult to accomplish with their low talent pool, they are in a difficult situation with T-Mac.
T-Mac and Hill both have player options after next year for 2 year extentions. If Hill is unable to play can he exercise that 2 year extention? Or is it possible to do a buy out?
