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If we decide to keep McGrady and let him expire...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Jan 28, 2010.

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Should/Do we let him play?

  1. Yes

    162 vote(s)
    55.7%
  2. No

    129 vote(s)
    44.3%
  1. blink

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    tmac had to miss a certain amount of games and after that number of games, every game he doesnt play, insurance pays. the rockets CONVENIENTLY sat him out the required amount of games. (imo he wasnt fit to play anyway at the time back in november)
     
  2. worzel gummidge

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    No, if he were to get injured again then there is no waiting period for insurance to kick in. Insurance hasn't been covering McGrady's pay since he stepped onto the court.
     
  3. blink

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    where did you read that? when tmac annouced that he'd come back to play in november, everyone wanted to know why they werent playing him. the reason at the time was that he had to miss a certain amount of games for insurance to pay for every game he missed. if he got on the court before then, insurance wouldnt pay. you got a link to back up what youre saying? (im looking for mine)
     
  4. blink

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    click

     
  5. meh

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    This thread makes no sense.

    Even assuming that T-Mac's a solid player, which is a big if, the only reason the Rockets would play T-Mac is to set up a trade. What's the point of playing an oft-injured veteran who's not coming back in a rebuilding year?

    You can call it building for the future, or tanking, or being assholes, or whatever. The point is, there's absolutely ZERO incentive for the Rockets to play T-Mac if they keep him.

    I mean, what's the best case scenario if he plays? He succeeds, the Rockets get killed in the first round, and T-Mac gets himself a big contract leaving the Rockets with nothing. Yeah, I'm sure Les and Morey are just salivating at that possibility. :rolleyes:
     
  6. sephiroth.hk

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    We should try our best to enter playoff each season.
    And we should try our best to pass each round if can play playoff.
    No need to think it too complicated...
     
  7. choujie

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    From the games Tmac played, he didn't help Rox win. Instead, he had -2.4 on/off stats per 48 minutes as a reserve, while every other regular bench player has a positive +/-.
     
  8. choujie

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    OK, make it simple. Rockets was losing while Tmac was playing. Sit him was the best Rockets could do to get into playoffs.
     
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  9. meh

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    Ah great. Obviously there's no need to think too deeply. I mean, this is only a franchise that's worth half a billion, with personnel involved making 7-8 figure salaries.

    I mean, what kind of a business think about one year down the road? That's just nonsense indeed...
     
  10. JujuxG

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    i hate the plus and minus stat, its just stupid, no offense to poster. You need a better stat than that, because +/- is very misleading, because as long your team win, the player will mostly like get a plus, while the other player get minus even if the player play outstanding.

    Also, you can't add up 8min to 48min because every game is different and until he player 30min plus a game, no one will know if he can help or hurt the rocket wins.
     
  11. choujie

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    +/- for very few minutes doesn't mean anything, for a season, it means something. Rockets bench players all have good +/- , starters all have minus+/- stats, it showed our starting line-up is not good enough, but our bench is one of the best in NBA.

    In Tmac's case, it may not mean anything because he only played around 50 minutes. But we saw how he played, his explosiveness was not there, his speed was not there, he couldn't finish even under the rim, and more importantly, his defense is non-exist for most part. If he couldn't play with extra energy in 7 minutes, how do you expect him play much better in 30+ minutes?
    There was no reason to give him more minutes, and there is no reason now.
     
  12. JujuxG

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    +/- is not a very dependable stat.
    8min per game over 6 games doesn't show much, when you just came back from a serious injury, you need time to adjust to the speed and tempo of the game.To when tmac was playing during the course of these game, he was slowly improving and adjusting.Source clutch video on tmac playign time.
     
  13. JLOBABYDADDY

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    In all fairness they played him 7 minutes and he asked for more minutes. When he asked for more minutes they gave him no minutes. He never gave an ultimatum at least publicly.

    The way I heard it was they had no intention of playing him so the two sides mutually agreed to seek a trade. If he didn't want to play all of you torch and pick fork bearers would be questioning his heart. But he wants to play and he's selfish. I know he hurt your feelings last year, but get over it.
     
  14. JLOBABYDADDY

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    *edit* pitch fork
     
  15. NotInMyHouse

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    The insurance payments stopped as soon as Mac hit the court for the first time earlier this season.
     
  16. NotInMyHouse

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    Not true. The Rockets did not have to wait for some magical number of games to collect on McGrady. It was reported by Jonathan Feigen that the Rockets had been collecting on that insurance beginning last season.
     
  17. DCkid

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    Wow, disappointed that so many ClutchFans voted yes. Y'all are better than that.

    I am 100% against tanking, but I know the Rockets currently are not championship contenders with or without McGrady. When you're not a championship contender, all of management's decisions should be geared toward moving the team in the direction of becoming a contender. Deciding to play a guy who will not be back next season while taking away minutes from our younger players who will be on next year's team is not a forward-thinking move.

    We either make the playoffs with the guys who we hope will be on the team next year, or we don't make the playoffs at all, and hope that all the experience and touches are younger guys got this season will make us a more well-rounded team when Yao returns.
     
  18. BEAT LA

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    This.

    In the case described by the OP, they better play him. Use your assets. Even Cook gets paid to cheer and be a practice dummy.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Actually, it is Tmac whose first priority isn't winning, if it was, he would have gladly accepted his role, not complained about playing time and touches, and adapted his game to a more team oriented approach.

    He didn't....and as a product of that, he was sent home.

    There is really not much else to it.......ego & comfort gets in his way a lot.

    Good riddance !

    DD
     
  20. BEAT LA

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    We all know he was being showcased in the first quarter of the game. When have you ever seen a player who was used strictly in the first quarter of the game who was not a starter? Some new role. That shows they did not care about using him to win.

    We have to understand where Tracy is coming from. If we do not trade him, play him at least 15-20mpg in both halves.
     

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