What if New York strikes out in free agency (which I still think they probably will) and Lee doesn't want to play for them next season?
First of all...David Lee IS NOT going to sign for less money. He's making 7mil this year, he's going to want next to MAX and he could get it because of all these teams that have cleared out capspace and someone will bite because of his numbers. 3rd of all, Lee plays no defense. He barely even blocks shots. He's WAY down my list because of that
Who said he was going to sign for less money? Also, DraftExpress seems to think he's decent on defense. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/David-Lee-87/
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He plays better D than Amar'e. He's ACTIVE. He moves his body and arms and boxs out. He get more boards too.
Well Draftexpress is for when he was coming to the NBA. His Defense is NOT...IS NOT better Than Amar'e. Not his helpside, and definitely not his post defense. Amar'e is active too, Lee get's more boards...but figure that he's 6'9 and plays Center for D'antoni. So he's only doing his job. Either way, Amar'e is a guy that is doubled and Lee isn't.
Actually that article was from last January assessing his current NBA game. And I would disagree about Amare's defense being better. As long as we're talking about DraftExpress, let's see what they have to say (August '08): http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Amare-Stoudemire-4498/
Corrected...but that Article is a while back. Here is the main point, Amar'e is someone that has to be guarded. If you don't...he drops 30 points easily. Lee is a Scola type player, why do we need another Scola type player? A guy that plays hard and will win some matchups? I thought we wanted a Star PF? A Guy that paired with Yao and KMart would give teams headaches before the game and nightmares after it. Lee isn't doing that, he's not a go-to guy no matter what his numbers say. In fact...Lee's game is JUST like Scola. Why replace Scola with a younger and therefore more expensive version of him?
DAVID LEE IS OVERRATED! If any of you think he's better than Amare, you must be on crack! Amare on his worst day is better than Lee, LMAO!
You need to take David Lee's numbers with a few million grains of salt: (1) Lee's pace-adjusted numbers are more likely to reflect what he would actually do in a "normal" NBA system, rather than D'Antoni's run-and-gun, play-no-defense style. (2) Lee plays on a crappy team where he is the best player and gets the ball in his hands more than he would on any good team. (3) Specifically with respect to rebounds, they are not telling about what a good rebounder he is when the number of missed shots in a typical Knicks game GREATLY outnumbers the rebounding opportunities is most other teams' games. A better stat to look at would be Rebound Rate (the percentage of total missed shots rebounded by a player when he is on the court). Sure, Lee's a good rebounder; but don't let his per game averages fool you. I agree with JayGoogle that Lee is not much better than a Luis Scola level player. Sure, he is younger and more athletic, but I would much rather keep Scola around at $6M per year than add Lee at $11-12M per year (which is pretty much impossible anyway).
See, I said No matter the number he puts up he's not a go-to guy. People are so stuck up on his numbers, but I find it funny how Knick fans don't have all these glowing things to say about Lee. Is Scola a go-to guy? Scola can win individual matchups, and he can create his own shot. That doesn't make him a go-to guy though. Is Lee a go to guy? Nope, they don't give Lee the ball and move out of the way. Even with the lackluster players around him he isn't given much attention to on defense by other teams. Yao last year...that is Go-to. You give him the ball in the post and it is 2 points. So much so that teams have to front, double, do whatever they can to get the ball out of his hands. Amar'e face up game is deadly, if teams are going to put him one on one, he's going to destroy them.
Also, I'd like to clear up i'd rather have Bosh over Amar'e. But Amar'e over Lee...then even Boozer over Lee(although I just don't like the guy...) Also, Knicks will have to renounce Lee's right, so no SnT can happen directly between us and them. Once he hits FA, we won't have the cap to sign him and he's going to want a large contract any ways. I just don't understand all the dislike for Amar'e. He usually always wins his matchup, paired with Yao it would be scary. I understand his injury history is not good. Yep thats why I'd rather have Bosh. His Ego/attitude is...questionable...Yes that is also why i'd take Bosh (even though I think great coaches deal with all the different personalities...) But Amar'e would be 2nd on my list there.
if we cant get bosh this summer how about signing mike miller for MLE and marcus camby for the vets to get a run at the ring. Brooks/Lowry Martin/Miller/Budinger Ariza/Battier/Budinger Scola/Camby/Hill Yao/Jefferies/Camby/Hill :grin:
heres a thought no ones addressed as to a way to get a very good pf that is about 20 yrs old. instead of breaking the bank and future for amare,and possibly not getting bosh or lee, why panic? why trade all your marbles for a overrated lee? bogut destroyed lee, lee is hyped because he is in NY . if lee was on rockets he would have not made the allstar team theres potentially 3 studs in the draft, whiteside,monroe,etc... the rockets more than likely will have either 11th or 12th pick. lets say morey studies these players and figures out that only 2 (whiteside,monroe) could be great and impact us immediately, lets say they are drafted 3rd and 7th, why not trade our pick,plus a ny pick to move up and get whiteside or monroe? you guys complain we traded a young stud in Gay for battier to "win now" , and some of you want batum or greene instead of a "win now" artest. dont you understand that both of those deals now dont help us. we dont have artest and battier is being traded. batum and gay could have been rockets for 12 years. im tired of this "win now at all costs" and we trade a 21 yr old prospect with talent for a proven 28yrish veteran. unless its bosh i say no trade. id rather have a young monroe or whiteside to have for atleast 10 years instead of hope david lee grabs 10 rebs here. quit thinking short term. if we wanted to win this year or next we would have did the amare trade. morey said no ,if your turning down amare just because of past medical records,then settling for lee is a huge downgrade. basically if morey was gm in the 1990's we would have not won a championship. he would have traded horry on draft day for sean elliot, then traded sam cassell on draft day for john starks.its time like this i miss CD. I respect CD for having the balls to draft Griffin and keep him.
Have u seen the help he has in Toronto?? The next best player is an overrated underachiever in Turkoglu, and they are still in the 6th or 7th spot!! So u cant expect him to make a championship run on his own over there! Plus he is 25 years old. If u remember T-Mac when he was 25 then im VERY HAPPY if he is a PF version of T-Mac! Not to mention we wouldn't need to build around him, once Yao is back we are one player away from making a run! I think that player is Bosh!!
