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If trades are to be made in the summer, let's go for something really big!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by oliver_67, Mar 4, 2004.

  1. bigboymumu

    bigboymumu Member

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    I think the max amount of cash that can be given as part of a deal is $3 million. Hardly worth it. Absolutely a terrible argument!
     
  2. bigboymumu

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    You would, Les wouldn't! MARKETING!
     
  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    The player you describe IS Cuttino. He does play excellent defense, is a good shooter, and doesn't shoot 15 times per game.
     
  4. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    LeBron James would not be a good complement to Yao Ming, because he is a terrible shooter. He would basically give you exactly what Francis gives you now. Ideally, you would want excellent shooters who can pass and defend to team with Yao. JJ and Cat are actually pretty good complements to him already. If we could get a Webber and a Mike Bibby to go with Cat, JJ, and Yao, then the team would be unstoppable.
     
  5. LegendZ3

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    You must be one of the dumbest guy around.
     
  6. oldgunrules

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    Hmm sorry I have to disagree with you on this one. I don't know how many LeBron's games you have watched. I have watched a lot of his games on the league pass channels. Lemme tell you, don't let the espn highlights fool you. Those dunks aren't nearly telling what a true bball genius this kid is. He is only 19, I can't even imagine how good he'll be by the time he turns 25. He and Francis are not totally different players, physical talent wise L.J. is a notch better, IQ wise L. J. is much much better. Yao and LeBraon teamed up, you'll won't have to differ to Yao all the time. They will make a one-two punch team like no one has ever seen before.

    Now bigboymumu, you say they may trade for money not for talent. I think if Les can ever pull this one out he'll get both and more: rings and rings. Now everyone can dream, or can't we? ;)
     
  7. oldgunrules

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    Correction: meant to say LeBron and Steve ARE totally different players.
     
  8. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    i would love to see our offseason look like:

    steve, mo, and boki for billups, prince, and sheed

    cato and AG for snow and a lot of fillers

    TE for camby

    new team:

    yao-camby
    sheed-spoon
    prince-jj
    cat-pike
    billups-snow

    i'd say after a decent start due to having to learn how to play wth eachother we start rolling afer the allstar break and end up with 52 W's with this team. and the 4th seed.
     
  9. meh

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    I'm sorry, but even if LJ and Yao both pan out, they're still not going to be a notch better than Kobe/Shaq or Magic/Kareem.

    The biggest question I have of Lebron is his shooting. The guy doesn't shoot a high percentage. Someone mentioned that Stevie had similar stats in his rookie year. And Francis hasn't improved these years. So it's not a lock to say that Lebron will become a superstar. Yes, he is as sure a thing as there is in the NBA, but there were plenty of "Next MJ" in the past. Just look at Vince Carter, or Grant Hill. Heck, not even Kobe or T-Mac has the ability to lead his team to the championships.
     
  10. dfoolz

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    I dont think SF will pan out here. He had his chance and did nothing. I cant stand watching him play he never thinks out there. He constantly argues with the refs I mean he is such a baby. He would rather be on sportscenter than win. That is just sad!I cant wait to see him go.
     
  11. bigboymumu

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    Huh?
     
  12. Jallen

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    You must be a SF3 fan. But SF3 can not win the champion if he plays not like a PG. You understand???
    Here I have a suggestion: you may get out and jump off the cliff.
     
  13. RocketForever

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    What about Yao for Santa? Santa would then give us the NBA championship trophy on silent night. Trade Accepted. Real GM says it could work under salary cap.
     
  14. mitbbs

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    L.J. will be the next Magic, a great shooter and the greatest passer. If we can get him and Yao, we are in heaven.
     
  15. gucci888

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    That would be the team of the future, could end up being one of the greatest duos in League History. Lebron is the real deal and he is only 19.
     
  16. murzin

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    speaking of trade, has anyone thought about Peja Stojakovic + a tough defender type PF for SF3? problem is that the Kings wouldn't want anything to do with SF3 so a 3rd team (likely a Leastern team) would have to be involved. there you got your sweet marksman.

    too bad nowadays a Steve Kerr type player is so rare: he'd do wonders with Yao.

    it's funny how the other night the commentators talked about what SF3 would do with his "franchise" license plate now that he's no longer the Man on the Rox team. looking back, it surely looks like a bad joke when the organization bet all of its dreams on a small combo guard. c'mon, they thought SF3 was the second coming of MJ? not even Kobe could be placed on that high a shrine. heck, Kobe isn't even ready today! T-Mac? No. Vince? NOOOO. AI? he might be but that's only true in the Leastern land. in the Wild West of giants only the true giants can be labeled a "franchise", and even if they are do you think TD or the Big Ticket has such a license plate shamelessly bragging about it? duhh... (i bet when MJ saw that license plate of SF3's he'd LHAO--that's how comical the whole thing is now.)

    to save the orgnization some face--as if i give a rabbit's a$$ about that--they have to trade SF3 to get some decent complementary pieces to help Yao. yeah right, just like how they dumped EG trying to save some face (you little punk screw up and mess with the ***** and the law? at least i can kick you out of the door to show you i'm still the boss :D ).

    how pathetic... the whole thing needs a shakeup and cleanup to get rid of the bad taste and hangover. otherwise Yao'd be smart to look for a new home--and i bettchya he's as smart as it gets.

    now don't underestimate LBJ. the guy's a force to be reckoned with. but sorry, i don't think they'll give him up even for Yao. (don't get pissed by this suggestion you Yao-is-the-God fans out there: He's untouchable but if you really watch the game, at least TD, KG, and Kobe are every bit as untouchable as he is. besides, they can bring the hardware NOW but you'll have to wait for Yao to grow. love the man, but never worship any mortals, son. ;) )

    peace.
     
  17. scotia

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    U r funny:D
     
  18. oliver_67

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    I have hardly said anything positive about SF in my previous posts and yet I am close to being labeled a SOF.

    Life must to tough on SF in Houston.

    On the otherhand, someone is again arguing with me about whether Yao or Miller is better. I guess that the case had been closed for a long time.

    Can anyone guess how scary it will be for opponents if Yao plays for the Kings? Instead of passing the ball to SF and CM out of double team, the receivers will be Peja and Bibby, who will have a field day knocking down wide open jumpers/treys, and Yao can just laugh all the way to the bank counting the dimes he collects.

    Yao can shoot even a better percentage at Kings. He does not even need to average more than 15 spg to easily average 22 ppg. All he needs to do is to get two layups/dunks from easy passes from Bibby/Jackson/Peja/Webber.
     
  19. jump shooter

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    Murzin looking back at betting everything on Francis may have been a bad joke, but you seem to forget the rules were different back then, like no zone defenses. Francis and Mobley were a big reason the NBA changed their rules.
     
  20. murzin

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    bro, guessing from your name, you must have been a "big reason" that your intramurual team won the title? :D

    (damn, we lost in the first round. :mad: )

    anyho, don't you think it's a WILD stretch that you call those two a "big reason the NBA changed their rules"? last time i checked, zone defense was allowed to hopefully increase scoring, not to stop SF3 from dribbling too much (sometimes off his own foot) or shooting the lights out. however i must admit the effect seems to be the opposite to what the NBA brass has envisoned.

    but that might be an off topic anyway. it took MJ how many years and one particular Zen Master + one Pippen to become a real Franchise?? That's well BEFORE the zone and all that and did anyone dare to suggest that the NBA change to zone to stop MJ??

    now you finally confused me: "Francis and Mobley were a big reason the NBA changed their rules". somewher the big dude Wilt must be LHAO while missing all the 20,000+ women whose lives he's "entered and changed". yeah, there you go: that's a "change" for better or worse.

    peace.
     

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