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If Sengun gets more minutes, where do they come from?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by harold bingo, Nov 25, 2021.

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If Sengun gets more minutes, where do they come from?

  1. Play him with Wood, figure out how to make two bigs work

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  2. Take minutes away from Wood, more Sengun at the 5 with no other big

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  3. A combination of the two options above

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  4. I don't think he needs more minutes

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  5. I have another idea, which I will post in the thread

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  1. cmoak1982

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    He couldn’t finish in traffic because he’s not a very good finisher due to his size.
    KPJ and Green are redundant. Green is not a very good shooter, and can’t finish at the bucket…..yet.
    He needs to come off the bench and back up Gordon, Mathews and KPJ. Get 20 min a game or so until he bulks up and is ready for the NBA
     
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    So you don’t mess with what’s working. Gordon is the far superior player right now. If you want to win, you play Gordon and have Green play off if Sengun in the second unit.
     
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    Green is a better finisher than KPJ … you know why? Because he actually jumps and tries to finish through contact vs avoid it

    I’m fine with him coming off the bench when he gets back…his jumper should come around - but main issue with Rockets is they don’t take midrange shots, yet we have several players who shot higher % from midrange vs 3pt
     
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    KPJ can do more than Green right now. Greens strengths are redundant with KPJ.
    And I hate to break it to you but the league as a whole doesn’t shoot midrange, 3 pt shooting is at all time highs in this era. It is what it is.
    I hope Green jumper comes around, I hope he gets better at finishing through contact and I hope he continues to give effort on defense. It’s better for the Rockets long term if he becomes at least an all star. Right now he hasn’t shown it and has been given every opportunity to showcase it, over some more deserving younger players.
     
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    Go watch the teams that are winning right now and tell me who doesn’t shoot midrange …

    PHX - Booker / CP3
    Nets - Durant
    Bucks - Middleton/Giannis
    Clippers - PG3 / Kawahi
    Lakers - AD / Bron
    Even Golden State

    the Rockets thinking is flawed and the reason we could never get past Golden State… missing all those 3s in the row when up double digits, it’s a great strategy to get a lead or comeback from behind…. But it’s not how you keep a lead / win close games
     
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    There are 7 players averaging over 5 attempts from 8-16 feet. 17 players averaging over 4 attempts from 8-16 feet.
    33 players averaging over 7 attempts from 24+ feet. 7 attempts. That’s more than the highest FGA player at 8-16 feet
     
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    140 players averaging over 4 attempts from 24+ feet
     
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    Wait, we still have people arguing FOR garbage midrange shots? Yikes. We've learned nothing over the past decade it seems.
     
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    ... but you can fully judge Sengun based on his 10+ min.s/game.
    Kudos to you sir.
    You are extremely astute.
     
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    Never said I fully judged him, I stated in his minutes he has a high turnover and foul rate … that’s a fact.
     
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    Once again… (Winning Teams)
     
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    Did Milwaukee and PHX make it to finals shooting 3s or by having some of the best midrange shooters in the league

    I’ll wait….
     
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    We can start slow. Just play them together for 5ish minutes a game. If it works, ramp up slolwy. If not, then go back to staggering. It's a long season, you can make another adjustment after making an adjustment. I do believe though that Sengun has to learn how to play with another big man eventually. The next rookie might just be a big so let him get his reps in sooner rather than later.
     
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    I watch games… the eye tells you more than just looking at numbers …

    you was prob one of the folks wondering why Sengun only played 12min against Hornets after having 4 of the Rockets 7 turnovers and 3 fouls in the 1st half
     
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    And you’re still not right about it.
    There are very few teams that shoot midrange at all. None that shoot more midrange than they do 3 pt.
    Within 5 feet and 3 pt shooting is what the league is now. Some players will take a few midrange shots.
     
  16. cmoak1982

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    Lol, I watch games too my guy. Your eye doesn’t tell more than those overwhelming numbers.
     
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    You realize Milwaukee was 8th in 3s per game last year right? Have consistently been in top 5-10.
     
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    And PHX was 15th last year.

    In fact, some of the worst teams in the league were low volume 3 pt attempts relatively speaking. And still 28.4 attempts was the lowest in the league.
     
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    See you are hard at understanding … you have to have a mix of offense …nowhere did I say eliminate the 3 … I said you have to have midrange as a option and for the Rockets .. it’s not even a option.
    Was only a option when we had CP3 and that speaks for itself
     
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    No I’m not hard at understanding. You made a claim that wasn’t true. I’m telling you what the league is now. Even the Rockets now take midrange shots, it’s just not prevalent…..for any team.
    Those days are over my friend. It is what it is.
    It’s nice to have players that can knock those down, but you’re not going to win with that being your bread and butter in this league now.
     

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