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If Sengun gets more minutes, where do they come from?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by harold bingo, Nov 25, 2021.

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If Sengun gets more minutes, where do they come from?

  1. Play him with Wood, figure out how to make two bigs work

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  2. Take minutes away from Wood, more Sengun at the 5 with no other big

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  3. A combination of the two options above

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  4. I don't think he needs more minutes

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  5. I have another idea, which I will post in the thread

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  1. SamFisher

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  2. gfab-babyboi

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    Green is the #2 pick
    Green is the face of the franchise
    Green has scored 30 points
    Green played more minutes in the G-League
    Green was being hampered by Tate Theis Wood lineup clogging up the paint - he dropped 11 points in 11 minutes soon as floor opened up
     
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    Yes he was the number 2 pick.
    It’s debatable if he’s the face of the franchise, he hasn’t shown that yet.
    I hope he develops into a star, but right now he isn’t even a top 5 player on this team and not even the best rookie on the team.

    And, he didn’t play more minutes in the G-League than Sengun had professionally
     
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    I would like to see him and Wood on the floor together for 10 mins per game, and I do think we will see that when we play teams that have 2 bigs.

    DD
     
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    Anthony Bennet was #1
    Margin Bagley III was #2(before Doncic)

    it means nothing. If Sengun was USA player he would be more hyped than Chet. He was literaly mvp in top european pro league. Green would average 6 points all from transition or spot up threes in Turkey. He would get demolished
     
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    It's cherry picking a small sample size of data but a 3 man lineup of Wood, Sengun and Mathews currently has a +33.3 net rating in the 6 minutes they've been on the floor together. Flank that trio with Martin and Gordon/Porter and see what happens.
     
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    Apart from all the advanced stats, one of the main reasons why fans want to see Sengun play more minutes is that he is just fun to watch.

    I agree with those who think that bringing him in slowly is the right move. People assume that a guy will proportionally increase his productivity if his PT increases. That's just not necessarily true. Playing 20 minutes per game is very different from playing 35 minutes night in and night out (insert Drexler's voice). It takes pacing, stamina, and foul discipline to play on a high level on heavy load.

    Just be patient, folks. I do think that Sengun has a very high ceiling and will be a special player eventually.
     
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    That's the kind of stat mining that wins you games and potentially championships. GJ
     
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    Sengun is intriguing yes, but he hasn’t even scored 15 points yet

    His Foul and Turnover rate is high - Green has only had 2 high TO games playing more minutes

    Sengun is perfect coming off the bench and running the 2nd unit with cutters and shooters … he can go all out and rack up as many fouls as he likes .. his minutes can go up or down depending on flow of game and (Wood)
     
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    I’d say the same thing for Green honestly. He’s a high volume shooter, what’s the most FGA Sengun has had?
    Sengun is far better percentage wise, I think those two would play well off each other in the second unit. Let Sengun facilitate for Green to get easier buckets
     
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    Green isn’t a high volume shooter, the main complaint about him is he wasn’t being aggressive enough.

    (I’m a Rockets fan, and been that way for 40 years… I don’t get tied to a player..Rockets come first)

    Sengun role is fine as is…the Rockets are winning and folks rather complain about 1 player minutes instead of enjoying the improvement of the team
     
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    I don't. There's a reason why twin tower lineups don't work. Nobody puts in their backup big man when teh Lakers are dumb enough to roll out a Dwight-Davis lineup.
    Lol, that's not even on the first page of most effective tiny sample size cherry picked lineups.

    In 6 minutes, Porter Matthews Martin outscore their opponents 138 -15. Come on Silas!
     
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    Green is absolutely a high volume shooter on this team, he’s averaging the second highest attempts on the team. While percentages are pretty below average.
    Just because he’s not averaging 20 FGA doesn’t mean he’s not a high volume shooter for this team.

    Sengun has actually earned his PT, Green hasn’t. He’s been gifted it and that’s the whole point I was making.

    Yes the team is winning right now, while Green is out. What’s that tell you?
     
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    And no, that isn’t the main complaint about Green. The main complaint is he isn’t very efficient and can’t finish in traffic at the bucket.
     
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    Because this thread is in reference to Sengun and used the filter function to look at only lineups that has Sengun?
     
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    And the results of your misfeasance are clear, SSS Sengun lineups don't have the gas of other explosive SSS lineups. Some SSS Nwaba lineups are pitching shutouts!
     
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    He couldn’t finish in traffic like KPJ or Gordon or any of our guards because the lane was clogged with no spacing playing Theis …

    He took maybe 2-3 bad shots a game at most… majority of his 3’s were open… since the Rockets don’t take midrange shots all that = to his numbers

    You won’t full be able to judge him til he’s back and playing in the offense with space
     
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  19. steddinotayto

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    Noted. Start a Nwaba thread in regards to his minutes and I'll post lineups that has Nwaba in it as well.
     
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    It tells me Silas finally stopped playing Theis and Nawaba 2 space killers … you basically replaced Green with EG …Mathew’s is playing SF Tate PF Wood C
     

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