If Rudy is here, would Rockets do this TMAC trade?

We weren't going to go anywhere with the group we had last year. The core of Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady is going to stick and the players around them will probably be moved around a bit but the core is whats important.

If we could knock down the 3 ball consistantly we would be incredible but that hasn't happened as often as I would like. Things will change..we're looking long term

 

I dont know for sure if he would have done this trade but i think he would have seen something had to change and one of the starters had to go...5 years without a playoff spot and anyone would see something had to change. I'm happy Steve is in a system he can thrive in, I just thought it would have been nice for Steve to go to the two spot and trade for a passing point. I'm also happy Tmac is here and we didnt get nothing for francis.

Don't get me wrong though, I'll cheer for anyone in a Rockets uniform because hey, its the friggen Rockets! I just want to see another championship which is what we all want to see. So lets work with what we got, try to get what we need, and cheer our Rockets on....

Go Rockets GO!

 

what makes you think no body wants them?

I can assure you the Rockets are shopping them. Why do we want player with similar skills and overpaid?

what makes you think we have tried to get rid of them?

Because that is our weakest position (PF).

If you didnt see the value to the Rockets of Cato alst year...you either dont know jack about ball or you werent watching.

I am not saying those players don't contribute. They are contributing according to what they are being paid. The are locking a lot of money and that tie our abilities to do any other trade.

Mo has trememdous value to us....damn good shooter...decent defender when he tries....

Not good enough for the money he is making.

Last time I checked, Boki was sitting on top of the league in 3pt shooting...so what he took a year or two to get there.....players that take a couple of years to start doing good are littered all over the league.

Boki is to much of a defensive liability right now. I like Boki, but he does not have the confidence to shoot 6-8 3 pointers a game. I he will be at that level, we will be in good shape. At this point in time, I think his stats will go down once he starts shooting more.

Cat Mobley....a RT pick....second round....are you going to try to deny that guy's skills?


I am not denying anybody skills. I just counting how many failures against the few successes. Just look at organizations like Dallas and San Antonio. Year after year, they are getting new talent. Our previous coaching stuff did a poor job at that.
I can not judge JVG since he has not had a chance to draft yet, since the mess from the previous stuff still taking its toll.

Sam Cassell/Robert Horry.....also RT picks(iirc)...would you like to argue they are crap?

Again, see above.

Posey was a helluva pickup for RT....it isnt Rudy's fault that CD/Les didnt want to spend the money.

Posey is not woth the money he wanted.

btw...that reminds me....you do realize that RT does not give contracts out...right? He tells CD and Les waht he wants and who he likes...and they work it out witht the agents.(once again...this is what I remember hearing about the way the Rockets do business...I could be mistaken)

Les handle the money matters. The decisions on talent are on the coach and on CD. By the way, I think CD should also be replaced.

Sure....the Rockets have had their share of problems with player movements....but what team doesnt?
All teams had bad picks here and there, but not as many failures as we had had with RT. Just look at SA and Dallas. Year after year they keep getting new talented players.

 

I wonder if, years from now, Rockets fans will still be asking themselves, "If Rudy was here, would we have traded Icky Vonn and those draft picks for Drederick Fortuna?"

 

I love beling able to vote on threads.

 

Right on.

I love watching phx. But even phx fans themselves are saying Nash is the reason and phx will have problems in playoffs.

 

I find this hard to believe. It looked like T-Mac wanted out and Orlando desperately wanted to get somethin for him.

I have to agree with you here. While JVG might have good memoiries about those old Knicks when they were young and tenacious but IMO age is a serious problem for the long term outlook of this team.

 

man, the spelling in this thread is making my head hurt...

 

http://www.floridatoday.com/!NEWSROOM/sportstoryS1112LAKERS.htm

Bryant can have all the shots and limelight he wants now, but with a starting lineup that includes Chris Mihm and Brian Grant, the Lakers often stack up short in the rugged Western Conference. He ranks third in the NBA in scoring at 27.7 points per game, but the points have come with him shooting just 37.7 percent from the floor, well below his career average of 45.3 percent.

Too often, he's been in a shoot-first, pass-second mode, hoisting up jumpers that didn't come within the context of the offense. He is finally free from Jackson's triangle offense, one he often found to be juvenile and constricting. And there's no more deferring to O'Neal down low. He's free to fire away now, but there are conflicting opinions from around the NBA on just what that will mean to the Lakers.

Orlando guard Cuttino Mobley, who has had success defending Bryant in the past but is questionable for tonight's game because of a groin injury, thinks Bryant is a more dangerous offensive threat with O'Neal now playing on South Beach.

"He gets to do more now that he's not with Shaq," Mobley said. "It's kind of like Steve (Francis) and I were with Yao in Houston. You never know when you're going to be given that freedom when you are playing with a big man. I think it's harder to guard Kobe now. When Shaq was getting the ball, you had some rest periods. But now you have to stay ready because Kobe is going to be attacking all the time."

But Seattle guard Ray Allen was highly critical of Bryant in the preseason, saying that Bryant's aggressiveness would come at a cost to his other Lakers teammates. He also sees the correlation between Bryant now and McGrady, who led the NBA in scoring the past two seasons while he was in Orlando, but did little winning because there wasn't much of a supporting cast around him.

"He's going to be very selfish and he feels like he needs to show this league and the people in this country that he is better without Shaq," Allen told The Los Angeles Times. "He can win championships with Shaq. So offensively now he's going to jump out and say, 'I can average 30 points and I can still carry the load on this team.'

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I don't hear Clyde says he feels less freedom playing with Dream, or Magic says anything close regarding Jabbar. In fact, doesn't playing one on five give one the most freedom? I'd think it's common for players to lose freedom on offensive anytime they play alongside a dominant player. Why does Cat have to single out big men like Yao or Shaq? I don't think Cat will get more freedom playing alongside a ball hog like Iverson. Maybe because the big men get in his favorite way of dribble dribble heave a shot guard play?

Kobe is paying a price without Shaq. Less wins and the lowest FG% of his career. Yet in defense of Kobe's driving Shaq out, Mobley focuses on Kobe's more freedom on offense. Yes, personally, namely "personal freedom" wise Kobe is benefitted from Shaq's leaving, but not from a team's standpoint. I'm disappointed to hear Cat only focus on the impact of a major roster move on a single player's style, instead of thinking from the winning and team perspective. Who gives a f**K about personal freedom when the team is greatly weakened without a quality big man? Sorry, I don't think a guard who places his freedom on offense and guard play above inside-outside attack will bode well with Yao.

I can label you as a Cat homer, but that wouldn't be much fun.

On the Cat freezing Yao out thing, I'd also say that Cat is indeed a suspect for not passing the ball to Yao in position, which was an observation acknowledged by various board members last season.

I never said Cat and Cato weren't good defenders. I don't know where you get the idea that I don't know they were two of the major defensive players last year. I was talking about Cat's mindset and Cato's overall impact.

Cato is overrated because he didn't play many minutes, has stone hands on offense and his absence didn't spell the downfall of Houston defense. On the other hand, we are still one of the best defensive teams in the league without those two.

To tell you the truth, You do a better job sticking to your video clip thing than sitting at home impersonating other's thinking process.