If Posey is let go, no trade for a forward would be a killer

Where did u see that we'll be over the cap after Rice comes off the book?

What exactly did I say that u said no to?

 

Do the math and answer this question: Without Rice's salary this year are the Rocks over the cap? By how much?

I think what from I have seen here that the Rocks are roughly over the cap $11 miilion this year ($55M vs $44M) Rice's contract does come off next year. At least some of that savings is eaten up by salary increases in the Rocks big $$$ players and the Rocks are still over the cap.

Now if we were a million over the cap this year. losing Rice's contract next year would open serious $$$ to pursue a FA.

Everybody keeps saying that JVG has a system, looking back on his Knick's days. In truth, JVG coached to players' strength on his team. JVG had Houston and Sprewell (both starting quality 2s). JVG figured out have to have them both on the floor at the same time. This in itself does not make a system.

 

Even after Rice's contract expires, we are still over the cap, but we will have some room below the lux tax threshhold. That will be helpful. I figure we may be able to keep EG (if he is good), use the full MLE, and still stay below the tax threshhold (which most likely will be higher every year). By that time, we know better whether SF or PF is the position to spend the MLE on.

 

How can the lowly grizzlies rate posey higher than us? Don't lowly teams spend less if they think the player is not so worth as much? So the rockets or jeff gundy or CD think moochie is worth more than posey?..sure posey likes to throw nightmare 3's from downtown occasionally but at least he knows how to hustle and defend and stay in shape unlike that smoochie dorkis the fat plump chump who gets lured by cheeseburgers..why r the rockets acting so poor all of a sudden after having full house spectators becuz of yao ming and also yao ming jerseys last year. You can't afford posey after all that income? Posey is better than half the team.

 

Looks like Brian Grant's deal is too expensive even for Mark Cuban:

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/basketball/6469593.htm

Posted on Wed, Aug. 06, 2003

NBA Notes
Cuban denies report about trade with Miami
Staff and Wire Reports

Mark Cuban denied a report in a South Florida newspaper that the Mavericks nearly completed a trade for Miami Heat power forward Brian Grant last week.

According to the Sun-Sentinel, Mavs president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson thought he had a deal to acquire Grant for three players. The players were believed to be forward Eduardo Najera, guard Avery Johnson and free-agent forward Walt Williams.

"None of it's true," Cuban said Tuesday.

The article, quoting an NBA source, added that Heat president Pat Riley would agree to trade Grant for Mavericks guard Nick Van Exel. Cuban denied that such a deal is on the table.

The two teams nearly agreed on a deal that included Grant and Van Exel last season, but the Mavs ultimately balked at taking on Grant's contract. The 31-year-old has four seasons left on his deal at approximately $50 million.

 

Look at what Portland has to do to cut 5 mils in Keon Clark's salary.
Does anyone still want to argue that we want to spend the money on Posey now?

 

Without Posey....we are still a good team but Posey is a special player!! We need a miracle!


Wut!!!!!!!posey seems to be very overrated by people in houston...if i remember correctly yall are the same people who when we were pressured to sign mooch u guys were the first ones to jump on board to sign him...and u see the result. it was very obvious that posey was playing for a contract towards the end of the season last year. piatkowski is the perfect replacement b/c he can get up 15 points a game simply by standing on the 3 point line and nailing 3's...posey is a good defender but he lacks the consistant shooting touch we need.

 

Are the 15 days for us to match Basketball Jesus II's contract up yet?

 

first of all defenses will rotate off the small forward leaving them wide open. Posey was an average outside shooter...Pike Rice and Nachbar are either great or above average shooters. We're going to miss Posey because of his athleticism and amazing alley-oops. He runs the floor real well...however if the Rox can run with mobley and francis for more fast break points and the SF trio can knock down their shots everything should be better without JPo.

Prediction: 52-30

 

Posey is a poor man's Bruce Bowen. There's no way on earth he deserves $5-6 mil per year. Granted, I'm not too comfortable with Rice or Boki as the SFs, and forget TMo. Piatkowski is a SG plain and simple, so no help there. But that doesn't mean we have to overpay for a guy who basically plays a little defense and shoots 40% or less.

Didn't we learn from overpaying Rice, Cato, Taylor, Moochie, ...? Practically every trade proposal on this board involves trying to get rid of one or more of these awful contracts. Adding Posey to the list would mean that almost half our team was eating up way more money than it deserved, and hampering our ability to make any moves of real consequence.

 

Posey deserves 4.9M. I don't know why people keep throwing numbers like "5-6M" around.

Posey will make 4.9M, andw ill only reach 6M in his final year, when we can trade him EASILY.

We need to somehow shave 2M off our salary to be ablle to re-sign Posey as well as complete the roster.

 

Deuce nailed it on the head.

Posey is definitely worth 4.7m. Posey is not worth another 5m if that's what the luxury tax swing would be. In fact, that's a bad deal.

You can point to all the other "bad contracts" the Rockets have, and say that they're the real problem - but the reality might be simple: sign Posey, and the result is essentially paying 9m for him.

He's not worth that kind of money.

 

So what's the freaking verdict?

Is Posey gone or not? Do I need to disband my posse?



I hope we resign him...

 

we should have just kept kenny thomas. but noooo!

 

we got adrian griffin now... we dont really need posey anymore

 

Congrats, memphis. Sux for you. Good luck trading.