If Posey is let go, no trade for a forward would be a killer

Thanks for the props guys. I just wanted to say that Miami wouldn't go for a Rice + Cato or MoT trade. I want to repeat this part. Miami have only two PF/C players, Briant Grant and an unsigned Jerome Beasley. If we take Grant, I'm sure they'd rather have Mo and Cato. I'm sure they realize how much Mo and Cato compliment each other. Cato does everythign Mo taylor doesn't do (or supposedly doesn't do). Cato can grab the extra rebounds. Mo T can compensate for Cato's scoring. Let's not forget that MoT was a 19ppg scorer at some point in his career.

Another thing: Any trade with Miami works because they're under the cap. No need to run it through RealGM. In this case, we're taking advantage of Miami's cap space and in exchange will probably have to send them the Chicago obligation or our own pick.

I think this is the best we can do this season, and probably the only way we can match up to the West.

Ming
Grant
Griffin
Rice
Boki
Posey
Mobley
Moochie
Piatowski

That's the 8-man rotation. There remains the problem of filling out the roster, so maybe we HAVE to trade Rice for a few players? As long as we get a small expiring contract in return for Rice, it can all work out. Rice for Dalibor Bagaric, Marcus Fizer, and Eddie Robinson? Rice for Chris Mills, Danny Fortson and Adonal Foyle?

Point being, our 8-man rotation can stand up to anyoen in the league. I've got to say, it's a VERY durable starting 5 to boot.

 

that's a 9 man rotation Sane and it looks like moochie is the starting pg.

 

I knew I was forgetting SOMEONE, lol. Now everyone's gonna label me a Francis hater.

Even better. the more the merrier, we need to fill roster spots.

Ming
Grant
Griffin
Rice
Boki
Posey
Mobley
Moochie
Piatowski
Francis

That's 10. We can sign one player for around 600K (10 day contracts then rest of season) and we can probably also receive a player in the Miami deal, maybe Lampley or someone. Maybe we can keep Badiane? Who knows.

 

I guess the best way to see it is that we are trading Mo Taylor and Cato for Posey and Grant. When you look at it that way, there should be no reason for anyone to say no.

 

Exactly! Someone call Carroll Dawson! Isn't today the GM show? Tell him this on the air!

Steve Francis/Moochie Norris
Cuttino Mobley/Eric Piatkowski/Juaquin Hawkins
James Posey/Glen Rice/Bostjan Nachbar
Brian Grant/Eddie Griffin/Malick Badiane
Yao Ming

12 players is enough...I hope this happens although sadly very unlikely. Unless someone tells CD! Maybe JVG doesn't like Posey...for some odd unknown reason.

The lineup above is better than...

Steve Francis/Moochie Norris
Cuttino Mobley/Eric Piatkowski/Juaquin Hawkins
Glen Rice/Bostjan Nachbar
Eddie Griffin/Maurice Taylor/Malick Badiane
Yao Ming/Kelvin Cato

 

Hey Vescey Sux....

Whats your email??? I have a really good trade idea.

 

Rockergordon - Really? Email me!

 

LOL. Exactly. That's why their slogan is "BE PART OF" something big but not "DOING" something big. We should really appreciate Rocket's honesty and transparency, esp. while large corporates aren't very trustworthy nowadays.

 

One big difference. yao ming and steve francis together are'nt what dream was in 95'

 

Money , Money, Money..... Thats what the Rockets are boiling down to. Too many bad investments. Can you say Moochie? Cato is in that group too. Mo Taylor is the only one i am giving one more season to see if he can cut the muster, but I don't think he can. All the Money spent on the afore mentioned players is crippling the tight spending LA. New stadium, where Les will make more money than at the last home, yet he will not spend anymore. Also consider more money made if the team plays some playoff games. To me spending a little more would bring money back in the long run. But Les doesn't want to risk losing some of his dough, or he would sign Posey, or go after some players to improve the team. Hopefully I am wrong, because I am a huge Rocket fan, but it looks like another season in 9th place in the West. Come on Les, Please spend some Money!

 

Bottom line is, the Rockets thought he wasn't worth it. Posey didn't want to go to Memphis, but he wanted more money thinking that the Rockets would automatically match it. But they didn't, and now he is stuck in Memphis for 4 years, while he watches the Rockets make the playoffs this year.

I am getting bored the way everyone is claiming that our season hinges on us not signing James Posey. Is everyone completely sold on the idea that Posey's re-signing is going to make or break our season????? Ugh......Posey is a good player, not great. But lets quit with the "King James Posey" theory.

Defense is very important, but it isn't our main priority. Putting the ball in the basket should be what we are concerned about.
There were times last season where we couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. When that happened they collapsed down low and dared us to shoot the ball. We did, and we usually missed and shot ourselves out of more countless games than I can remember.

Last year:
Points per game we were 20th(out of 29) in offense, 18th in FG%(even with Yao at 49.8%), 16th in 3 pt %.

25 out of 82 games we scored 100+ pts(6 of those games went into OT. 23 of our games we scored 90+(3 games went OT). 28 games we scored 80+points!!(thank God none of those games went to OT. 5 games we scored 70+ points. And finally the 81-66 stinker we put up at home to the Jailblazers 4 games before the reg. season ended.

Shooting is becoming a lost art form. When you don't have shooting to keep you honest, your big men will get swarmed more and more. Just ask Hakeem.

We were tied for 6th in defense PPG. 5th in Opposing FG%.

Now JVG won't change people overnight, but by mid-season, you will see the difference.

 

What's the deadline for the Rox to decide?

 

Aug. 7th...I think...

 

Rockets have some of the highest ticket prices in the league. Thus, signing Posey should not come down to a money thing.

If they don't sign Posey, I expect a trade for another starting quality 3. Rice only averaged 24 mgp in the 62 games that he played last year. If Rice can duplicate those numbers (by no means a given), Boki would have to start 20 games and play half the minutes in the remaining 62 games. Given Boki's drop dead performance in the summer leagues, he can not fill that role. He just is not ready.

We need another body at the 3, especially if Rice's health goes south again.

 

Ok Desert, u got me.. What I meant to say is that the Rockets DON'T think he is worth it. Sorry about that. Good luck in Graceland, JP...you are gonna need it. Poor guy.

Also, I enjoy stating my opinion just like everyone else. You have an opinion, I have an opinion. I enjoy the friendly banter about who think they know what is best for the Rockets. It's fun.

As for the buzz around the league about Posey, don't worry..you didn't miss it. The only buzz about JP is on this website....Thank God. Lets stay put, let JVG do what he came in to do, coach...roll the dice and see what Boki, Pike, EG, and 'ol Glen can do. Remember, we aren't going to win any championships in the next couple seasons....


As for the stats not factoring in, TO's per game per team is even closer than FG%. And if I am correct, there are quite a few more Field Goals attempted per game than TO's per game....lol...well at least I hope so.
And defense CAN be taught. If JVG can get Allan Houston(yes, that Allan Houston) to play a little D, well hell....the sky is the limit for the Rox!!!!!! He brings a new defensive philosophy that he will sell on the Rockets and the changes may not happen over ight, but lets see our progress before mid-season..

I still believe!!!!

 

Now that the Clips matched Maggette's offer sheet, I'm hoping Lamar Odom signs a one-year tender. Then we can maybe send Cuttino, Rice, Cato, et al for Brian Grant and....um, Dwayne Wade? I don't know, but Cuttino on the Heat would persuade Odom to join the Heat when he is unrestricted.

 

Trouble is Rockets has one of the lowest attendance.
If the fans turn out in number at the gate then Les will have more money to throw at these players!

I see exactly the opposite.
If we get a starting 3 or signing Posey, we will be burrying Rice and Boki again. It's money wasted.
In JVG's system, a 2 and 3 are very close.
With Cat, Pike, Rice, Boki, we need a defensive stopper to back them up. Hawk will be my choice.

With the best scenario, Pike splits time at the 2 and 3. Rice produces at the 3 while Boki slowly develops and gets more time.

In the worst case scenario, neither Rice nor Boki work out. We won't be hurting so bad since we still have Pike to play the 3 and Hawk backs up if he gets abused on defense.

At the end of next season, we'll know for sure if a starting 3 is needed, without Rice's contract we can well afford a starting 3.

 

Next year without Rice's contract, the Rockets are still over the cap and will have the same MLE $$$ that they had this year.

No, no, no. It is "When JVG coached the knicks and had two starting quality 2s, he figured a way of starting both." Thus, the JVG system does not demand interchangeable 2s and 3s. The JVG system is to build a team around the players that management gives him.