If Miles and Miller are gone, I hope we don't pick Moiso!

about 85 percent of moiso's points will be coming from 10-15 feet away from the basket because lets face it moiso is not gonna be banging inside scoring in the paint. this team is not lacking in guys that can hit the 10-15 feet shot, basically the entire roster can shoot consistenly from 10-15 feet away with the exception of kelvin cato.

this team is however lacking toughness, defense, and a 10+ rebound a night guy. Oyedeji's offensive game can be worked on, your acting as if Oyedeji has no offensive skill at all and that's not true, he has a very nice jump hook, a good turn around jumper, and if all else fails just lob up an alley oop pass and he'll catch it for the dunk.with a little help from dream and cd he could easily average over 10 ppg.

 

Let's be honest, Oyedeji is very raw at the offensive end of the floor. What exactly does "play inside" mean? Score in the post? Well, even though Moiso's post game is labelled as needing improvement, its still better than what Oyedeji brings. Also, as Moiso continues to develop his low post game, he will be able to move more and more into the post. Even though he needs more improvement, Moiso is a whole lot more fluid on the offensive end than Oyedeji. Also, he has a lot more potential to be a complete player than Olumide. The Rockets arent at the point where they just need one player to put them over the hump, thats why I think they should go with the best potential overall talent in the frontcourt at the 9th pick. Based on which players are projected to be left, Moiso fits that imho.

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I would argue, based only on speculation and my impression of the UCLA system, that had Moiso gone to almost any other school than UCLA, his talent would have been developed to the point where he would be nearly a lock for a top five pick.

He still needs a definite "go-to" in the low post and he needs to bulk up but I think he's better fit for the Rockets than Oyededji.

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The Rockets cannot fully prosper without a legitimate low post presence. There has never been a team that has won a championship without some kind of scoring presence in the post. And yes, the Bulls are even in that category as they had the 2nd best post option in the league with Michael Jordan. The Rockets can only go so far if they are forced to rely solely on perimeter scorers.

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I've seen many of Moiso's games and the guy seems very unmotivated and uninspired, he consistently played unconsistent, very similar to robert horry. You can hope he works on his low post game but that doesn't mean it's gonna happen. His game is very similar to Carlos Rogers in that he really doesn't excel in any one area of the game, he's above average at many things but there is nothing that he's great at.

The thing with Oyedeji is he's only 19 years old and only been playing basketball for a few years. With a little work the guy can be a very good player. He's is just as athletically gifted as Moiso if not more. He has the prototypical power forward body, 240 pounds of muscles with basically 0% body fat. He has a great work ethic, pulled out of last years draft because of his second round draft position, worked on his game for a year and now he's a lock for the lottery. Rick Pitino and Don Nelson are drooling over this guy.

 

I seriously think its better to probably just go after a Small Forward. I would rather get a power forward from free agency. Jerome Moiso , is sometimes great and sometimes cant play. He is off and on.

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dice7_11: Just curious...have you ever seen Oyedeji play?

 

It makes no sense to me to get a "tall" power forward for the purpose of matching up with other teams' best players. Guys like Wallace, Garnett, Webber, Duncan, etc, are their teams' best players. That means they are going to require a double-team, unless you have a great defensive player going up against them. Drafting a tall power forward for this purpose is a complete waste. Go for the best player available that is a 3, 4, or 5. If I'm going to double-team a guy, what difference does it make if I have Kenny Thomas or some taller player attempting to guard him. Kenny is valuable because he can create a mismatch himself on the offensive end. I'd rather be concerned with defensive rotations than getting height for no reason. That's the same mentality that would lead one to believe that Thomas Hamilton can stop Shaq, because he's just as big.

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cabbage, i haven't yet seen him play in person, i've seen pictures and read many scouting reports on the guy and from what i've read the guy sounds like an amazing athlete.

i have however seen Moiso play in person and the guy is gonna be a bust, believe me.

 

The Rockets cannot fully prosper without a legitimate low post presence.

Oh my goodness, DaMan and I actually agree on something. Seriously though, this is a very important point. What people keep forgetting is that Jordan averaged over 50% from the field from the 2 guard spot which is PF like numbers. This was b/c he posted up so much as Da Man pointed out. Thus, if the Rockets do draft DerMarr Johnson, they will have exceptional perimeter talent, but they had better figure something out about the low post. You need a high percentage player late in games esp in the playoffs. Thus, if they draft Johnson, they need to end up signing a legit PF (Chris Webber?).

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This is my first post here obviously, but I have read things on here off and on. I hate to say this, but I think 95% of you think the games are played on paper, and are locked into fantasy basketball mode. Kenny Thomas is not bad at all, but that's beside the point. Just because Moiso is taller doesn't mean a damn thing. Would you rather have the taller, more athletic Roderick Rhodes as your point guard or the short, slow John Stockton? Would you rather have a Sam Bowie who is 7'1" or an Hakeem Olajuwon at 6'11"? Players play ball, they don't play fantasy league ball looking for the exact height and weight ratio for a spot on the floor. You either play ball or you don't. Donnell Harvey is only 6'7", but when it's all said and done in 5 years will be one of the top 5 players to come from this draft. Having a natural ability to play the game of basketball is a lot more important than a couple of inches or pounds here and there. Duane Causwell is about Moiso's size...any takers on him? Pervis Ellison maybe? Let's get out of fantasy basketball and talk about some real basketball on the courts here....

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There are exceptions, but generally, short PFs don't prosper. Barkley is the main exception. KT doesn't have Fortson's board skills. At best he'll be Gary Trent.

There's a difference between being tall for a position (Bowie) and undersized (KT).

Moiso has a LOT of potential/talent.

Our problem is we don't have a dominant post player. If this team had a prime Olajuwon, a Shaq, a Zo, or a Duncan etc. at center, I'd have no problem with KT starting at PF. Our frontline is weak, we don't have a real option down there. Webber would be an ideal PF next to Cato.

KT is at best a backup, or a roleplayer. He's not a main cog, and we don't have a main cog up front.


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Nope not the real one, sorry. I know Myers wasn't all that good, but he somehow was one of my favorite players of all-time, especially after blocking Tony Jones' shot in the Purdue game in the NCAA Tournament that year. I take it you're a UT fan too? Not many people would probably know who Panama Myers is....

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panama myers,

This BBS has probably at least a minimum of 6 known UT fans, but I am not one of them.

Just remembering random pieces of information is my nature.

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