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If McCain is the Republican Nominee I'm voting Democrat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bingsha10, Jan 30, 2008.

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  1. rhadamanthus

    rhadamanthus Member

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    The best part of that article is how it shows the real focus of the wingnut "conservatives". It's not abotion, gays, or welfare anymore.

    It's torture. They just wanna torture.
     
  2. ivanyy2000

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    Let's just do a quick reality check on John McCain: this guy wants to leave the troops in Iraq infinitely, has no clue about economy except reciting expert names. He is a big time flip-flopper on both immigration and tax cut issues. And he is a liar who brazenly lied about his opponents' record.

    How can anyone support him is beyond me!
     
  3. rodrick_98

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    if the conservatism you are referring to is that of goldwater, gingrich, and paul, the limited government, and free markets, that form began it's death in 2000. and i completely agree an election of mccain could be the final straw.

    this article spells it out better than i could -

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/5503876.html

     
  4. bingsha10

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    completely agree. McCain is just Bush 3.0.
     
  5. Dairy Ashford

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    Wouldn't be the first time. She endorsed Sheldon Whitehouse over GOP incumbent Lincoln Chafee in the '06 Rhode Island Senate election.
     
  6. mc mark

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    Oops!

    via HufPo --

    Fox News identified John McCain as a Democrat in the chyron yesterday, forcing us to question just whether this was an "error." McCain is anything but a Reagan figure among the right wing — booed at CPAC, hated by conservative pundits, seen as more liberal than Hillary Clinton (according to Ann Coulter) — and, given Roger Ailes' propensity for propaganda, we honestly have to wonder whether any Fox News mistake is a "mistake."


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  7. Apollo Creed

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    It was on Cavuto? Surprise, surprise.
     
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    faux news, your source for election coverage. :D
     
  9. Aceshigh7

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    I agree with every single thing you said. 100 percent.
     
  10. rodrick_98

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    sorry to resurrect this, but noonan says it well, and bush's response is hilariously lacking... i realize this is off topic, but it ties in with my choice to most likely vote democrat in this election.


    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120120952618514493.html?mod=most_viewed_day

    and his answer to chris wallace when he was questioned about it

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330234,00.html
    how does that response he gave answer the question? where in there is he asked how history will judge him or his record? she didn't ask about jobs, or attacks on america.


    HE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE SAID "3 jobs? that's uniquely american." :mad: :(



    furthermore, in the interview he responds to a question about mccain

    WTH MAKES MCCAIN A TRUE CONSERVATIVE?
     
  11. rhadamanthus

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    Krugman has some thoughts on the economy and the election:

    link

    McCain is NOT the right president for this task.
     
  12. jo mama

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    they did this with republican mark foley too - put a 'd' infront of his name when his scandal was being discussed.
     
  13. mc mark

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    via TPM --

    McCain's Bind

    It appears that waterboarding and Republican presidential ambitions may have collided today in the Senate.

    At issue is a Democratic measure that would restrict the CIA to using those interrogation methods listed in the Army Field Manual. In other words, it would bar the CIA from employing so-called "enhanced interrogation" techniques.

    Republicans were expected to use a parliamentary procedure today that would have blocked the measure by requiring a 60-vote minimum to proceed.

    But here's where it gets interesting.

    Presumptive Republican nominee John McCain opposes waterboarding, which would have put him in the position of voting with the Democrats and against the President on this measure, perhaps giving the Dems the 60 votes necessary to proceed.

    So the Republicans scuttled that planned parliamentary maneuver, and the full bill went to a vote a little while ago, barely passing, 51-45. Notably, McCain voted against the bill. One would expect that his publicly stated reason for opposing it will be something other than the anti-waterboarding provision.

    The GOP thinking may be that it's better to have the bill pass and the President veto it, than have the current Republican nominee and the President so publicly at odds.

    That sets up an interesting situation when and if a veto override is attempted. But with the two-thirds vote required for an override seemingly out of reach, McCain's vote may be less crucial.

    --David Kurtz

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
     

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