If McCain is the Republican Nominee I'm voting Democrat

Enron and the mortgage crisis still would have happened. Although we are not really in a mortgage crisis. Yes foreclosures are up to 1% of all mortages. But that has more to do with people buying mortgages they couldn't afford in the first place because ARM's made them look good. Blaming stuff like this on a president is like blaming the tech burst of the late 1990's that led to the economic turndown from '98-2001 on Bill Clinton. Yes it happened under his watch, but he didn't do anything to cause it.

 

Apparently not in America

 

The whole basis of the two party system is voting against someone. There aren't really only two possible choices, but no single candidate would have enough support to win, and voting that way puts someone you definitely don't want into power. Since we can't have our first choice, the best thing we can do with our votes is try to ensure we don't get stuck with out last choice.

In 2000, people wanted Nader and voted for him. Don't you think those people would have preferred Gore to Bush? Hell, I want me to be president. No one agrees with my positions more than I do. But voting for myself would just be throwing my vote away. Seeing as how I am not eligible for the office, I can't really do that.

 

bingsha10 it looks like you're not the only one who isn't happy with Mr McCain --

Limbaugh: "The Base Has Fractured"

A defensive Rush Limbaugh, one of Senator McCain's biggest detractors, just delivered what he called a "non-concession speech" in response to Mr. McCain's win in Florida Tuesday. "Yeah, it looks like McCain's pretty far down the line now to having wrapped this up,"

"There's a lot of anxiety among a lot of conservatives about Senator McCain. It's simply indisputable,but there was no figure in our roster of candidates who rose up to challenge him or to galvanize conservative support. All the candidates on our side, for various reasons, are uninspiring or worse and so just as I predicted the base has fractured. Some going here. Some going there," Mr. Limbaugh said as he explained Mr. McCain's victory in Florida Tuesday night.

"Senator McCain has been able to cobble together enough votes to win in a few states. Fine. He deserves credit for that. But to pretend that Senator McCain is the choice of conservatives when exit poll data from every primary state show just the opposite--he is not the choice of conservatives as opposed to the Republican establishment, and that distinction is key," the conservative talker said. "The Republican establishment, which has long sought to rid the party of conservative influence since Reagan, is feeling a victory today as well as our friends in the media, but both are just far-fetched and wrong."

http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2008/01/limbaugh-the-base-has-fractured.html

 

I'd vote for ya, Stupid.
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You do realize that Ron Paul is actually older than John McCain, right?

 

Well, honestly, who wouldn't?

 

Methinks Rush is talking out his *ss again.

 

Either one would be older than Reagan when they take office.

 

Warmongering makes you look older.

 

I did say "doubtfull" they would have been prevented. But there are lots of contributing causes. The president does have some influence on the Fed. Greenspan and McCain were both concerned about cutting taxes w/o spending, but Greenspan certainly appeared to bend to political pressure later on in the tax cut debates (while to his credit McCain didn't), similarly Greenspan seemed to change his tune some about being super cautious about inflation pressures and kept lowering short term rates to near nil and printing cheap money which did contribute to the sub-prime ARM mortage problems. The president also has influence on the selection of oversight committes (e.g., SEC). Thus due to a variety of factors yes I would have liked the chances for more independence and the possibility of catching things sooner or lessoning the damage with a McCain adm over Bush II adm in multiple financial areas. Not saying for sure it would make a big difference, but I could see where it might have. And in addition to not pushing the tax cuts through w/o spending restriants, I am very sure McCain would not have had as many sweatheart deals on the homeland security spending spree that Bush has had--but that is a a different issue.

Finally, blaming the ARM mess on consumers misplaces most of the blame. It was the financial institutions that made the high-risk loans. They are the ones taking the risks for their stockholders. Anyone can ask for a loan--but it is the fault of the lender if that loan if granted is a sucky investment noboy else in their right mind would buy off of them because it could so easily turn into a liability.

 

What country do you live in?

 

Quoted for truth.

 

It might be true. I do question if McCain will hold up and be likable when all attention is on him. It is a different role than being a senator with a Maverick label.

But I will say this, if McCain can't beat Hillary, Mitt and Huckabee sure as heck wouldn't. McCain and Guilliani are/were by far the GOP's best shots to win a general election with the unfavorability of GWB and the current party leaders by anyone who isn't a GOP party member or self described conservative. To Crist and Arnold and Brownback and others credit--they see this writing on the wall.

 

america. just my opinion. But it seems shame to take the negative, i.e. vote against someone rather than for someone. Or more accurately, SOMETHING, rather than someone.

wel i can agree with that. But like you said, you vote FOR your interests, as in taking the affirmative

 

Being imprisoned and tortured for five and a half years probably ages you...

 

I'd think so, too. But here's a photo of him looking young for a 37-year-old.

 

By November, "conservatives" will vote for McCain in droves. They will work themselves up into a huge lather against whoever the Dems nominate.

 

What exactly are you trying to say, my friend? My friend, look at his hair and arms.