The question should not be whether 'we' would take Marbury, if bought out but would Morey and Adelman 'legitimately' take on a Marbury, if bought out. The answer to that question would be yes, assuming he fits under the cap well enough. IMHO
That's it?? No riddle no nothin??? C'mon at least throw us a bone over here during this long boring offseason summer Doc
I think he's the biggest loser in the NBA. I think he personifies everything that is wrong with the NBA. I think he is a me first stats guy who makes Forrest Gump look like a high IQ guy. I think that, despite his absolutely abysmal and shameful career, he has one of the biggest egos in the NBA and would NEVER sacrifice minutes or his beloved stats to do something for the good of the team like coming in off the bench. In short, I'd rather bring back Matt Maloney.
So many people are afraid of being great....some times you have to risk it all to acheive the prize. Conservative thinking will not win the ring. DD
He made some clutch shots on the Eastern Conf All-Star team one time.....doesn't that count for somethin??
You guys saying he has not helped are not looking at the team's he was traded too....he has never been on a team loaded with talent....if he came to Houston it would be a first....... Good players play better with other good players. DD PS. I do find it funny though, that the same arguments people have against Marbury...basically a knucklehead are the same ones I have about Artest.....the difference for me in this case is the low risk portion.
Since we are going to spend only ~ $1M, of course it is yes. If he has no other problems, and is a big time winner in NBA, then why would Knicks let him go when still paying him lots of money. We need a PG, he could be the guy for the 20 min plays. Just cut him if he is going to act like a cancer, there is no much risk here.
Artest is another animal all together. He has fit in on good teams. He has proven he'll do what it takes to win. Is he a knucklehead? Absolutely. Is he very nearly r****ded? Absolutely. Nonetheless, he is a gifted basketball player on BOTH ends of the court and he has played second and third fiddle before. For the record though, if Morey does decide to go after Marbury for a vet minimum contract, I'll certainly hope for the best. I don't see it happening though. Marbury has talked before about ending his career in Italy and I'd think a European team would love to throw a big contract his way.
Players like McGrady and AI have been in the NBA for roughly the same number of years as Marbury and make close to the same in salary. If Morey decided to move McGrady for a late First Round pick and expiring contracts, he would likely have a ready market to do that deal. If Denver decided to move AI for something similar, they would probably have a similar opportunity to complete a deal. If Walsh asked for a package similar to that for Marbury, other teams would likely hangup the phone. AI and McGrady both have their imperfections and likely have already peaked in their level of play, yet they still have trade value while the market for Marbury appears to be Zero. Your POV seems to be that the rest of the NBA is too conservative in regards to taking chances and that your insight is superior. A late First Round pick and expiring contracts is a very nominal price to pay, yet no team appears to be interested in paying it.
No, my point of view is that the rest of the GMs are smart and would not trade for him at that huge contract, but WOULD go after him at a bargain point. No one can trade a late first round pick for him because they would have to trade roughly $20 million in salary to complete the trade. Thus making him worth less than his tradeabilty....I am saying if he is BOUGHT out, why not take a look. And you want to be an admin.....SHEESH !!! DD
I do not think Marbury will have problems playing as a role player behind Yao and TMac, but I do not know if he will accept the role backing up Alston.
If he came here, I doubt very much he would be backing up Rafer, more like Rafer would be backing up Marbury....or gone all together. DD
I guess taking the suns to the playoffs and beating out the rox don't count? For once, I agree with DD . I think its a low risk move. I've been screaming about this safe stuff all the time. Mike Dell could have stayed at UT and been a computer programmer. He bootlegged cpu from IBM, quit school and has been the richest man in texas for the past 10 yrs or so. Safe doesn't get the big prize. U haven't met a millionaire or billionaire that has got rich being "safe". I'd rather give hime the bi-annual than barry. Open the competition up and who ever loses between francis,marbury, and alston, 2 gets shipped out and Brooks backs up the starter.
As I said in the other Marbury thread, how did Detroit's risky move of acquiring Wallace work out for them? Or Chicago and Rodman? Or NE and Moss? Or Dallas and TO? Or Boston and DJ? Etc. If you wanna pass on Steph because you don't think he has game anymore than thats one thing. But please chill with all the "he is a knucklehead cancer that will kill our chemistry" talk. Similar to all those guys above (except for TO, and I'm not sure what Boston gave up for DJ), our investment in him will be minimal, so you can cut his butt if he starts to act up. I could understand this argument if we had a team full of young players, but we don't. Bonzi and the coach got into it all season two years ago. Did that stop the team from playing good ball? You think Mike James wasn't chirping on the bench last year? Did that stop the team from playing good ball. If he starts to act up, then you dismiss him and move on....just like we did with Maxwell in 95 (yeah, been there done that). I doubt Marbury even wants to come here, but don't be suprised when some contending team steals him and he helps their squad.
I put expiring contracts in the same sentence as A late First Round pick. The salary matching issue would be similar whether it was for McGrady , AI or Marbury. 2007 - 2008 Salaries Tracy McGrady (Hou) $19,014,187 Allen Iverson (Den) $19,012,500 Stephon Marbury (NY) $19,012,500
Mango....the initial question was......IF HE WAS BOUGHT OUT...........therefore those salary figures are irrelevant to this discussion. No one is debating that Marbury's contract has outgrown his value in relation to Tmac and AI...... DD
