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If injured does Yao take up a roster spot?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jul 14, 2009.

  1. kenwonobi

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    Cook and or Barry seem the odd men out unless the rookies stink it up in the preseason and or Dorsey.
     
  2. theDude

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    Listen to yourselves! You are talking about buying out or cutting players in the final year of their contracts. Putting together several of those smaller expiring contracts is exactly how the Spurs were able to acquire Jefferson. Cook and Barry are more valuable to the team this year than they were last year. We can use them to facilitate a trade and let the other team cut them if they want.

    You can only carry 12 active players anyway. Yao, Tracy and Cook fill the other 3 spots. If you need to make room for Wafer, Taylor or Budinger goes. Why, exactly, do you need to cut anybody?
     
  3. J.R.

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    You get 15 roster spots. 12 suit up for a game. 3 are on the inactive/injured list. With that said, Yao and McGrady would be on the inactive/injured list. The odd men out is probably James White(non guarenteed contract). That gives you 15 players, with a Cook or Barry or Dorsey filling the 3rd spot on the inactive list on game nights.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    So far has anyone been able to answer the question, if Yao is out with an injury exception, do the Rockets get an extra roster spot?

    DD
     
  5. the1option

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    Lol..Brian Cook


    Player G GS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    Brian Cook 6 0 32 4-15 2-9 0-0 3 9 12 3 2 1 4 4 10


    Useless, waste of space, I cant even believe he gets paid more than Scola... get rid of him.
     
  6. m_cable

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    No such thing as an extra roster spot. If you're under contract then you're on the 15 man roster. No exceptions.

    Edit: Opps, I'm an idiot.

    The NBA does allow for an extra player on the inactive list, temporarily in case of hardship.

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q64

    As for Yao, it still shouldn't apply since it's only for temporary situations and not longterm "out for the season" injuries.
     
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  7. StevieFlight3

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    Say we send one of our players to the Vipers, like Doresy, is he still included?
     
  8. saleem

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    It's 16 with White's partially guaranteed contract, he might get cut if the coaches and management are unsatisfied with him after his performance in the summer league.
     
  9. saleem

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    Yes,it still counts.
     
  10. csnerd84

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    This is what I remember reading in Jonathan Feigen's blog as well.
     
  11. J.R.

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    Yes, a few have. There is no "extra spot" or exception. Yao is hurt, he is on the inactive list along with McGrady and another player wearing suit and tie unless he is rehabbing.
     
  12. saleem

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    They do not get an extra roster spot.
     
  13. m_cable

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    Okay see my edited post above. It is possible to temporarily get an extra guy on the roster. But that wouldn't apply in this situation with Yao out for the season.
     
  14. declan32001

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    It was answered in a thread a few days ago, but how you don't know the answer flabberghasts me. Yao takes up a roster spot for the forseeable future and occupies a big chunk of salary cap longer than people will be tolerant of.

    The injury exception needs work and even though I'm a hardcore Rockets fan we got it too easily. There are a couple of NikeStrad's posts that describe the difficulty of getting it when justified. We got it quickly and without worry of impugnity.

    I can't believe that thread hasn't been made. The NBA made a stink out of a previously life-threatening situation when Mourning came out of retirement.

    But Yao's situation is sooo serious that if he comes back after the all-star break Stern will be dancing in his underwear and probably won't even say: "bad Morey!"
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I figured there wasn't but was not sure if the injury exception changed the situation.

    DD
     
  16. BimaThug

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    Actually, the answer is . . . maybe.

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q64

    If the Rockets could prove a "hardship" due to Yao being out for the entire year and T-Mac being out for a large portion of the year, then the league MIGHT grant the Rockets an additional spot on the inactive list, which would increase the total number of roster spots to 16. I actually think that the Warriors were granted this due to hardship a couple of years ago.

    Still, I doubt that the league grants the Rockets an extra roster spot due to "hardship" at this point, since this would typically involve a scenario in which the team had a slew of injured players and was having trouble dressing eight healthy players every night (as was the case with the Warriors). The Rockets currently only have two injured players (albeit their two best players).

    Bottom line: YES, it is possible to be granted a 16th roster spot due to "hardship", but NO, the Rockets will likely not be granted the extra spot, since their injuries are of high quality, not high quantity.
     
  17. m_cable

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    I agree BimaThug, I don't think there's any way that "temporarily" and "hardship" can be applied to this case. The way it's written in the CBA FAQ leads me to believe that this is only possible in the middle of the season, when a team has too many players injured to suit up.

    How there can be hardship when we only have 2 players that are injured right now. That's less than the 3 injured players that used to make up the injured reserve. If the league allows for 3 inactive/injured players, then that can hardly be worthy of a hardship designation.
     
  18. FFz

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    I'm almost positive they let us have 16 players one year when JVG was coaching because of Mo Taylor's injury and the fact that we had some other players injured.
     
  19. m_cable

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    Yeah, I'm probably wrong in my first post. The CBA faq does describe being able to temporarily add a player in times of hardship. So you're probably right about Motay.

    But I don't think it would work in this case with Yao.
     
  20. dreamfellas21

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    cook needs to leave for sure.

    i like battier and barry as mentors.
     

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