If china attacks Taiwan, what do you think America will do ?

...And the true color shown?

Where is your love for law etc, etc?

how ironic, I love it.









BYW, I understand you have your personal feelings and fondness for TW, and loath for authoritotian Goverment in China. But it doesn't justify painting history or law as the way you likes.

 

WOW. Lil, so you mean all the previous sovereign treaty blown dead when Republic of China took over Qing also? What have you been studying over there in that Boston school? Not to mention PRC is now the legitmate representative of China? (ask Uncle Sam)

Well at least you agree TW legally belongs to some conceptual sovereign entity of CHINA.

 

why was your this reply to panda's post so short? maybe you had no words to answer it?

ha ha......

 

panda, it is a nice post.

btw, i had been sz for ten years. and i am in guangzhou now,but i miss sz so much.

 

you work for cambridge university ,uk? and you are a economist?

sorry, you have been brain-washed.

ha ha...

 

I recommended it as a film which gives a look at pre-revolution China. I hardly gain my knowledge of China from that film or any film.

 

I know that CHINA is politically naive. That's part of the problem.

 

I don't love the law. I love history, and you should study some that is written outside of China.

 

because to say more would have caused him to lose face, and I don't want to do that

 

The Republic of China was found and still meant to serve the people of China. For you mentally challenged that can't the meaning of the people of China. That includes the mainland Chinese and the Taiwanese Chinese. Therefore we Chinese as a whole own the Republic of China in the past, at present and in the future. By natural selection the Republic of China failed its mission to serve most of Chinese well and lost control of most of Chinese land to another Chinese state, and that only weakens its ground to decide China's future. As simple as that. The notion is robbery logic as it tries to portray that ROC don't belong to China in the first place so others can feel free to pry ROC away from it.

The international laws are acknowledged by the weak countries as well as the strong powers. They are acknowledged as they reflects interests and commonly acceptly rules regarding such interests among the constituents of the international community. Unless you have proof that the greater powers held guns to force the weakers ones to accept them, to say they are just a tool to serve the interests of greater powers is outlandish blasphemy and shows disrespect to the international community. You'll have zero chance to be admitted into the international community with such a stance.

 

Thanks for your concerns Friendly Fan. Although I don't agree with your assessment I appreciate your input as somehow I sensed that your stance is based on lack of understanding of contemporary China, not some disguised ill intent. Although I'm not sure you are being kind or using it as an excuse I appreciate your efforts.

As recommending movies like Red Lanterns to the outsiders, I would only agree with it in light of its artistic achievement, even though I found that aspect limited. As other movies do, Red Lanterns sacrifices history integrity to fulfill its dramatic needs. It is true, that the old China practiced polygomy, yet there was no practice of hanging red lanterns on conbubines rooms to indicate the husband's daily sexaul preference, or at least, not documented. Therefore, one would have a wrong picture of history if they take movies for granted.

China is a lot better than you think it is. Either you have been reading some serious sh*t or you got stuck in 1970's to have such outdated views. I have been on this board for a while and wrote a lot of posts to illustrate modern China, since the western media hasn't done a decent job to keep people outside informed about China, as nearly all foreigners that actually visit China say that China is better than they thought, and some of them, find China as a pleasant place to live in. For example, an American CEO of an IT company, sorry forgot his name, receiving an interview a while ago from HK's Phoenix TV said, word by word, that he is ashamed to visit Beijing so late and he was very surprised at the high level of commerce there. What that means, he probably thought China as being backward as much as you think, and he found out that he lost business opportunities for joining the China party so late. My point is, I've written enough of these things. So don't take my silence as to concede to your description of China. Since it's off topic, if you wanna hear about it from the Chinese fans around here, you can open up another thread and we'll communicate, or if the search function is open, you can go back and read my previous posts on the situation pending your interest. I bother to type these because you have shown interest in Asian culture, it would be a shame to limit your view and experience of it for the sake of lack of communication.

 

Panda,

I don't mind discussions, but when they presume I don't have the information available, I tend to get testy.

I know China has made great strides, and if I haven't mentioned it yet in this thread, I will. China has had to advance hundreds of years in under a century, and it still has some catching up to do.

I argue the points which are easiest to argue, and which have a basis in truth. I always reserve the right to use hyperbole, and usually do. Anything worth saying is worth exaggerating.

I'm not concerned about Taiwan. It will get worked out. North Korea is the problem.

 

One more thing, thanks for the support from my fellow Chinese posters. BTW, michecon, where have ya been? welcom back.

 

hmmm....

I regret (almost) spending almost most my pre-30 days studying and brainstorming with other people. But that's Ok, you don't know me. Just my obervation here.

 

I'm still slive and kicking, just spending more time to hone my papers, and enjoy the summer and seaside

Good to hear from you.

 

Sorry if I interrupt the "love fest", but what I just quoted, if a few changes were made of the name of the country (China) and the inhabitants of the country (Chinese), could be straight out of the doctrine of Germany's National Socialist Party in the '30's.

Perhaps you should read the history of Germany during that period, if you are not familiar with it. I find it a little disturbing.

 

Take it easy Deckard. I wonder if the countries Nazis invaded has the clause of "found to serve the interests of Germans" in their mission statement while their status as countries being recognized by Germany, if they were former parts of Germany. Not to mention ROC isn't even a country that's recognized in the international community. We're talking about completely different situations here. In fact, if you do the same routine to Lil's post, you'll get the same level of worriness. What, changing your property management and change the name of it results in revoking the ownership? This is ridiculous.

 

Somehow I can just imagine that Panda is really a low level bueaucrat in the PRC ministry of propaganda. His job is use the internet to spread the company line on Taiwan. The insistance on one version of history, failure to acknowledge the PRC's as a totalitarian leadership, and his failure to accept a people's inalienable right to freedom reeks of the arrogance of autocratic rule.

OK here's a bet Panda. I bet we see a popular revolt in Hong Kong before we see the PRC in Taiwan. It will make Tienimen Square look like a tea party (you know, like that one they had in Boston)

 

Panda is the equivalent of Ari Fleisher.

I'm not agreeing with the Chinese communist gov't policies, but I would think that you would have to tighten governmental controls to manage a population of 1.5B. Personal freedoms will have to be sacrificed for the greater good. We sometimes take for granted how easy we have it here. Imagine the Houston traffic being 5 times as bad and everyone had to live in cramped living spaces. Say goodbye to your SUV and 5 acre backyard and meet your public bus and one bed room apartment. Not that I agree with the methods, but I understand.

Hong Kong was never a democracy when the Brits were in charge. What has changed since the handover is that the Chinese leadership in Beijing are now pulling the strings instead of the British half a world away. It's essentially the same level of freedom as before, except the island doesn't have to pay the British governing lord his tax exempt $400K salary and kiss his ass. People in HK are unhappy now because of primarily economics. The combination of the '97 financial crisis, real estate crash, unemployment, competition from other mainland cities, lousy leadership all contributed to the fall. They're like an IT company. Most of the people have been laid off and are taking odd jobs. The ones still in IT are miserable because they won't be upgrading their Mercedes this year. Talk of the subversion bill threw them over the top. If the 3 links are ever established between Taiwan and the mainland, HK being the middleman will suffer even more. It'll get worst for HK before it gets any better.

 

ha ha ha...

your answer is too weak to believe it.

let me help you:

because facing the truth and facts that panda wrote in his post,you looked like to paint history and law as the way you liked.