There is zero question, if he was a Democrat, his views changed, but projected that was the party changing. That said, the Democratic Party definitely turns off a lot of would be voters. There's a reason they lose elections despite having had more success when in office and more popular ideas in National polling.
I hear you. The democrat party turns me off. Fascism turns me off even more and unfortunately that is literally the only other option on the table.
buddy I'm guessing you're about 30 years old and I'm 62. I suspect you are completely ignorant about where Democrats were when Carter was president and what the political climate was like coming out of the Vietnam War. I've been through this before and I am not going to go down that rabbit hole again with you or anyone else here.
If they are going to keep Biden, the best campaign tactic at this point is being upfront. Be honest that Biden isn't ideal but the only other option is fascism. The DNC trying to do a "Weekend at Bernie's" with Biden will just look foolish and fake. It's a sad state of affairs but all the Democrats cnw do is harp on the fact that this old dude is the only thing between democracy and fascism at this point.
I don't think it's that bad a scramble if there's a halfway decent candidate Midwesterners like. Sorry y'all, you're not that important rn. It's mostly up to the swing states to either punish Biden for out of control real estate prices and higher CoL expenses or believe the new guy cares enough about them to fix it rather than gaslighting everyone through public statements and talking heads
It's over. Biden stepping out now would be chaos. Kamala can't beat Trump and Biden probably can't either. The only options that could step into the chaos of Biden quitting and actually win would be someone with huge name recognition. It's June. It's too late for a governor with limited national profile to brand themselves for November, overcome Trump's starpower AND overcome the chaos of the Biden/Kamala situation. Michelle Obama is probably the only name who could pull it off. Maybe Clinton? Not sure where she is at these days on the unfavorable scale.
Pretty sure it wouldn't come through the same way reading it as watching it. Biden spent the first 20 minutes or so being deer in the headlights, fumbling for words, and bringing up the negatives about his Presidency without any provocation to do so. He could not have been worse to start unless he completely froze like Mitch. Part way through the abortion discussion he finally got going rebutting Trump's comments. After that he was pretty much himself. It didn't help that Trump was actually doing a great job to start before falling into his normal ramblings and ignoring every question.
After her performance during Covid (The rules are for Thee, not for me) I wouldn't want Whitmer or Newsome on the ticket.
Trump didn't ramble at all last night. The thing that Trump did was let Biden talk, Fact is the more that Biden talks the more he hangs himself. Imagine what Chi/Putin are thinking today. Scary stuff.
Hilary? People really dont like the Clinton's. Never be a friend of Hildawg if you want to live a long life.
This is obviously in humor, but it does bring up a risk in the DNC opening up an abbreviated primary instead of the delegates rolling over to the VP in an emergency type of scenario. In an open primary the Bernie risk is absolutely there. Not necessarily because Bernie wants to run again, but because he might have to in order to consolidate the progressive vote given that someone would jump in and really muck up the process. Bernie was the candidate for the progressives in 2020 because of this factor. Without the standard bearer, you'd have all these Rashida Thalib types jumping in and what that would do is subject the Dem electorate with a massive amount of Dem bashing from within. It would cool the independent electorate on the party as a whole. You see this in an extreme fashion with the Republican House Speaker bonanza. So long story short, yeah I think it's unlikely that it wouldn't be Kamala Harris essentially taking over Biden's delegates in an emergency type of scenario the party has in its platform rules.
That was probably the worst debate I have ever seen; will Joe drop out......I doubt it, but I hope he does but I fear we may have lost the election last night, but hey, its a news cycle so we shall see. I think Newsom or Whitmer would be the choice, Gavin is a great speaker but not sure what he stands for and my one concern for Whitmer is how would she handle the constant bashing and lies by trump and the maga team. I would love form Michelle Obama to run but I think she is above the fray of politics I really wish there was one candidate who could bring the 2 sides somewhat together, but the divide is so wide right now I don't see that happening this election cycle. I am not mad at Biden, we knew he was old and as another poster stated, being Prez takes YEARS off your life For those of you who want trump in office, I hope you read project 2025, there are some things in there that would radically take us back to a time that was ugly. I was talking to some folks in my office about this and they really don't care about anything except for what the price of milk is at HEB......I find that so short sided but there is a huge chunk of voters who think like that
Biden had a come to Jesus moment, well really several where we thought he was about to be raptured up right then and there.
Since Joe will not go away voluntarily, they had to do something and I believe this is the best way for them to get of rid of him. The problem is finding his replacement and the replacement candidate has to be on the ballot in Ohio by early August. The Dems are running out of time literally and figuratively.
0 chance they do that. We're going to get the weekend at Bernies thing. In fact, they probably double down. Already saw they want another debate. Which, you know, is exactly what doubling down looks like.
My preference would be Shapiro, who I'd actually consider voting for. I don't think either Kamala, Newsome, or Evita can beat Trump. I'd need to learn more about Whitmer.
That's so true. Trump is like God to them, and his gospel is the only one that matters to them, and the only truth they will believe. He will save them.
