Well if you were trying to say SF only plays well in the spotlight, your stats don't even go to that.... So, by your statement, you are just spouting a bunch of crap until you show otherwise....
You're right. My apologies. I'm running 2 lines of thought together. My reference to the other thread was actually meant to be a response to your earlier comment about Francis not needing to be traded. I stand by my opinion that he steps it up for nationally televised games & will revert back to hogging the ball when the spotlights go out. The other thread is intended to show how the team wins more games when Francis defers to Yao & Mobley. Thus, trading Francis for a pure PG would seem to be a beneficial move for the team.
That is what I was trying to point out in a joking manner, thus the "Joker" in the other thread.... I actually thought your stats are interesting but really nothing more. That's why I posted what I did about so many other factors that come into play.... not just SF and his "PG" play. As for turning it on, that seems to me to be human nature. And the best usually do rise to the bigger occasion.
I still say we should have pulled the trigger on the artest/Harrington trade that was kicked around for a while.
If we could get the Clippers to make a Francis/First Round pick/Filler for Brand/Jaric, I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat. Brand is the perfect PF and Jaric is a big PG who can really shoot the rock.
Yeah, Jaric would be the solution to all of our problems, He's a great passer (4.5 apg), a great shooter (39%) and scorer (8 ppg), and a quickfooted knock down defender like most Europeans, as he only surrenders about 20 ppg to opposing guards. These trade threads rock.
so are you saying that the rockets are better w/o francis, and with mobley someone please explain that to me, because i dont see it steve= three time allstar mobley= no allstar apperances maybe i am missing something
Jaric is a throw in in that deal, the real prize is Brand. Or maybe you think Francis is worth Brand plus an all-NBA first team guard. That is because people like you determine who starts on the all-star team. People who don't appreciate shooting or defense, and are very concerned with highlight reel dunks. People that determine a player's woth based on all-star appearances.
Just want to say that Jaric's asst/to ratio puts Francis' to shame, and that Francis doesn't shoot better than 39% either, while Jaric shoots better from 3-pt range than Francis. But the again, it's not liek Francis is giving up 20ppg to the opposing PG, right? Hmmm, when was the last time Francis gave up 20pts to the opposing PG? Jaric is no Francis for obvious reasons, but not the ones you mentioned above. Francis is better at getting to the line, the rim, grabbing rebounds, defending smaler PG's and kicking the ball out. However, Jaric is better at setting up plays, is a better shooter, protects the ball better, and is bigger. Still, I don't think I'd make the Brand/Jaric for Francis trade, regardless of draft picks. The last thing this team needs is developing players, and Francis for Jaric/Brand traight up is not good enough. We'd be overcrowded up front and understocked at PG because Jaric can't play 40 minutes consistently like Francis.
I know, but I was just trying to illustrate how dumb most of these trade threads are because of the "grass is always greener" phenomenon... ..People see Jaric and they repeat the scouting report from the NBA draft preview from a few years ago: "Oh look, he's a big PG who can shoot and is a great passer!" Well, he's not that great of a passer, hasn't been shooting worth a lick, and makes Steve Francis look like Scottie Pippen on defense. As for brand, good player. He'll do a good job standing around while Yao has the ball in the post, and vice versa. Boring. Anyway, who freaking cares. This deal was not proposed, never will be proposed, and will not happen.
4 assists 2 to's vs. 6 assist 4 to's. Who gives a damn, his sample size is so small, it doesn't matter. Opposing PG's are scoring 18 ppg vs. Hou, 20 ppg vs. LAC. Take from that what you will In total, though, Jaric is probably the worst starting point guard in the Western Conference. Seriously, name one guy who is worse, I'll go down the list: LA Payton no Sac Bibby no Por Stoudamire no/maybe I'd take Damon GS I'd take Van Exel if he was healthy Sea Barry no Phx I dont even know who they start, maybe Barbosa, I gues we'll call it a push Hou Francis no Utah Arroyo no Mem Williams no Dallas Nash no SA Parker No Denver Miller no Minnesota Cassel no
most of the trades.. especially the one that hottiedottie came up with are straight up idiotic.. not to judge anyone, or put them down.. but why mess up something that is going well? no team is going to go 82-0.. there will be off-shooting nights.. there will be bad games for certain players.. everyone is human... the team is playing well and needs a chance to prove themselves until the end of the season.. i am more than content at what the team is doing.. after the last game against minny, i am loving the rockets rigth now... everything has been clicking lately.. go rockets!
Yes, calling someone's suggestion "idiotic" is by no means a judgment or a put-down. As it is, you'll probably get your wish about the team playing out the season together. But how often do we say "they need time together, they need to do this, someone will have a bad game" etc etc? I read in the Chronicle how Steve keeps saying he's trying to keep Yao aggressive and yet Steve fails to see his own shortcomings. Even against Minnesota it was "Yao got his, now I'm getting mine" sort of attitude. And his turnovers are driving JVG nuts. But Steve will not be moved, not until after a year has passed, anyway, with JVG as coach. That way the backlash doesn't come back on coach or owners.
I have a "wait til summer" attitude right now, but that could change. Francis does not, will not, and will never really fit JVG's system. He is trying to his credit, but his greatest asset is "streetball" creativity and JVG's system is a bit too structured for that. Plus, he is a fair to awful playmaker. If a trade was available for a "very" good playmaker and a firstrate power forward, I would do it even now. Build around Ming. Francis had his chance, almost five years. It is time to move on.
I don't buy that. Every one of those years everyone knew he couldn't do it alone and that we were just building towards a good young playoff team. He didn't plan on the headaches. He didn't plan on MoT getting injured. Rice hurt etc.. That's just not fair. The time is now to show he can play and adapt enough this year to get to the next level (playoffs) and try to go even further than that when we make that step. He is doing that.....
