Seriously I can't believe Rockets Fans are bagging on the history of the Rockets just because we haven't won a truckload of championships. The Phillies have been around for more than 3 times that the Rockets have and have only won two championships. Do Phillies fans bag on the history of their team because they aren't the Yankees? No they don't. The Rockets are frustrating and believe me there's been a lot of times the Rockets have driven me crazy but they are my team. They are our team. They were the ones who brought Houston its first major championships and then they repeated it. They are the team with names like Elvin, Calvin, Moses, Rudy, Lew, Ralph, Clyde, Stevie, Cat, Yao, Tracy and of course Dream. Names that are etched in Houston history. So yes we're not the Lakers or Celtics but that doesn't mean we don't have a great history. And if that is enough for you think about this. The total of championships won by the Mavericks and the Jazz combined: 0
Yeah, I'm tired of all this "I've been a fan longer than you" stuff that gets trotted out on this board. My earliest memories of sport were watching the championships in the nineties, and that's why I'm a fan today. But some people weren't old enough to remember all that. Doesn't make them any less of a Rockets fan. I spit on this poll.
No love for Herrera, Sleepy Floyd, Matt Bullard, Buck Johnson ? what a waste of 3 mins of video No seriously, great video, wish I could make one like that with the footage I have. The Rockets have a great history of succesfull players, draft picks, rookies and could've had at least 1 more Championship if it wasn't for the drug problems. However, I do think the problem since that GM was fired in 93-94 the Rockets have relied too much on winning now. We haven't built a succesfull team in years and while we are somewhat building on our future with Landry, Brooks & Wafer, again we find ourselves in a year where the team is expected to go for it all and I'm sure after 2010 when Tracy is gone, things will get better if Leslie and the organisation want to give young guys a chance to develop and try to build on the core we're establising today. It's not a bad thing that we're going for it every single year but that brings huge expectations every year so it's time to lower them. There is obviously a downside to all this winning now mode we've been in for years, which is that if we do not win anything in the next 2 years it will take at least until 2015 before we will be able to contend again (if we build a young team). Just look at the Blazers, that team is going to be very dangerous and is very capable of winning a championship in the following years. The Bobcats can be dangerous too in the next couple of years, bearing they do not make anymore crazy trades like the J-rich one. Conclusion: The Rockets have a rich history of great players, which is not reflected when you look at the retired number list but I think it's great that they have only honoured the really special ones. Maybe a few more wouldn't have hurt, but at least we know two are definetly to be added to the legends: Dikembe Mutombo and Yao Ming (maybe even Tracy if he cannot come back since Leslie loves him).
What 2 years in the 80s did the Lakers not make the nba finals? Who did those teams lose to? TRADITION b****
What other city in the NBA has had it's collegiate hero who led the city's college to multiple Final Fours and multiple NBA Finals?? TRADITION b****.
First let me say this is exactly why this board has become what it is. too many knee jerk reactions, jumping to conclusions, not reading threads completely, seeing only what you want to see. It's the effect of an up and down season and fans don't know how else to channel their emotions and they take it out in all the wrong ways. I expected more from Tin Man, i really did, although i'm not a long time member i've been follwing the site since the beginning and this post is extremely childish. instead of staying on the original thread and reading my explanations you wasted your time creating a pointless thread, which is obviously biased and unreasonable. To summarize what i said in the original thread. I felt like tinman talked about the Houston tradition like if it was the Lakers or boston, chicago, etc. My whole argument was that we're not that, but rather a level below them and a level above the bottom feeders, which puts us in the middle. why the middle and not the upper half?? Well because in the NBA you dont have many levels due to a few franchises having most of the richness. It's basically three levels, those who haven't really won anything, those who have won a few, and those who have won a lot. Like i posted in the other thread, i see the true reputation of this organization as a class act, on and off the court and a sa whole, from the team, to coaches, to staff and management. When other players speak about it or are asked about it, they always talk about class, not rings playoff success, but that's not a bad thing or "hating". Even with all this tmac drama i can say with a straight face the organization has been a class act, too bad i can't say the same for some of their fans.
1 a: an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (as a religious practice or a social custom) THAT is tradition, b****. We had ONE dream. We had TWO rings. we had FOUR final appearances. that's not established, customary, or any kind of pattern. you're talking about HISTORY. Yes, we have 41 years of memorable history, a lot of it being succesful years, but don't get it twisted.. and before all the boo birds start responding to me, understand the difference between tradition and history and realize i'm in no way knocking the Rockets' success in previous years.
We have a rich GNR tradition (GNR - get no respect). Costas, are you listening, you bunghole! It's time for a little respect from the media, but short of that, I'll take tinman's winning tributes to the halcyon days of NBA stalwarts who bore the Rockets uniform. Thanks!
The Cubs have a rich tradition and they lose all the time. The Rockets have over 40+ years of tradition. Think about that, with the same city too. As far as I know, the Rockets didn't move like the Lakers did out of Minnesota.
oh boy, for someone who preaches 'know your history' as much as you do, you FAIL! I spit on this thread.
I'm pretty sure tinman meant that they didn't leave the land where they originally succeeded, like the Lakers did.
EXPOSED I recommend wikipedia/Rockets.com , or heck, the rich library full of Rockets history provided by the one and only Clutch.. before you go insane bragging about how your fandom kicks my fandom's butt, get educated.. cheers
This backs up exactly what i said about you wasting you time rushing over here to create a pointless poll instead of just sticking to the original thread and reading my explanation. Someone mentioned the cubs and i replied that baseball has been around twice as long as basketball, so there's a lot more followers, a lot more years, a lot more games, seasons, playoffs, good moments and bad moments. You keep using the word tradition instead of history. They have a rich history, not a rich tradition (unless it's a tradition of losing). They won early on and haven't been elite since, but you'r talking about 100 years of history to 41 years here.
