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Icing Yao Ming

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MacBeth, Nov 25, 2003.

  1. danjojo

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    Ha ha ha...that one was good...we were lucky to win by 15...we could have lost had the Clippers scored another 8 baskets in the last 3 seconds of that game...
     
  2. Lionheart

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    I wanst talking about the Clippers game but many other games that we've managed to win by 2-3 points these past 2 season.
     
  3. sweetie

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    The one thing I dont understand,is why is Ming doubled before the ball,yet Duncan isnt and Duncan gets as many shots and touches as he wants.

    I watched a spurs game and Duncan looked more "open" than Ming usually does.

    Im not a bball expert,so someone else needs to watch the tape,however, I suspect its either one of two things>

    1.spurs teammates are better shooters thus teams dont double Tim as much as ming ?

    2.maybe Tim is just that much better than Ming in that he can face up the basket and take it to the hole,and also post high or low with strength ?
     
  4. sweetie

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    Well, I can answer part one . Yes, David Robinson and now Nesterovic are MUCH better shooters than Cato. Maybe thats the solution. Have teams respect our pf shooting abilities. Maybe thats why Taylor seems to play with more chemistry than Cato along side Ming(the offense goes more smoothly)
     
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    These arguments mean less than zero. I don't think people like Codell's post because the color of his name in Rockets chat. He posted factual information documented every touch or attempted touch that Yao Ming had in the third quarter, and that backs up the points he has made. Codell had a point and brought in evidence to back it up. That's why people like his posts. It isn't being an apologist for anyone, he just layed out the facts, and nobody yet has been able to refute those facts.

    Some people like you have tried to label Codell as being a certain way, and tried to attack those that support Codell by attaching a label to them, but nothing you've said here, has in any way shown a weakness in the evidence and facts produced by Codell. If it pains you so much to watch the Rockets play this way and win game after game, then don't watch. And if the only evidence that you can post to back up your position, is trying to label other posters as having a bias, then don't be surprised if nobody takes you seriously.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    #2.

    Of course Tim Duncan is better than Yao Ming. He is light years ahead right now. We are talking about a guy who has 2 rings and sigle-handedly makes his team into a contender.

    And he is definitely doubled as much if not more than Yao Ming. The only reason he doesn't drop 30 a night is because of all the attention he gets.

    I do agree that the guards are bad passers though, and Yao Ming would get more touches with a pure PG. But don't exaggerate. Hakeem, Duncan, Shaq didn't have pure passers when they won rings.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Yeah, That's exactly right, I'm kissing his ass because it's part of my grand plan to curry his favor. And don't think codell doesn't have an agenda too. He's actually trying to sell Steve Francis and Mobley life insurance by sucking up to them on an anonymous internet message board. :rolleyes:

    So much anger here: blame, excuses, denunciations. Since when was being a sports fan about that?:confused:
     
  8. sweetie

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    Well, I dont know how much I agree because Ming is also pretty good, however, If Duncan is this much better than Ming,then why isnt the Spurs guards having trouble giving Duncan the ball at all. I mean, Ming will go an entire half with no points because of no good looks at the basket, if Ming is being zoned out this bad,why cant teams zone out Duncan also and cause him to go an entire half scoreless? I dont think Duncan is THAT much better,it has to be something else, either better teammates or better offense sets.

    also, If your right though,and Ming is light years away from Duncan,then that would mean in order for the rockets to win a championship we will need not only Francis, but also a 3rd allstar just to compete with the mavs and spurs. I mean the SPurs have a great pg in Tony Parker and GInobilli who many wil say is better than Mobley,and then of course Tim Duncan who you say is light years ahead of Ming. If thats the case,then we definately need atleast another star to go along with our "ginobilli" in Mobley and "tony parker" in francis just to level out the difference between ming and duncan.
     
  9. superpro

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    The messages on this threat are really going to extreme ends. Somebody, please help Icing this thread.
     
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    The difference right now is that Duncan is quicker, stronger, and more agressive. He is more decisive in the post. He also attacks the boards ferociously. Even if you zone him up, he'll get 18 points just by cleaning up the offensive boards.

    That's what I'd like to see Yao do. If teams take the ball out of his hands, attack the offensive boards and score that way.

    Also, Duncan has a better face up game and is able to drive on most PF's in the league.

    There is no comparison at this point.

    Switch Yao and Duncan and the Rockets are a top three team while the Spurs are borderline playoffs.
     

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