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I Would Rather My Ancestors Not Have Been Slaves Than Being Born An American

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Mar 15, 2020.

  1. pgabriel

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    We have a proud history. We survived slavery. It's a mental block being proud of what we do know.

    We have to get over the anger. Money can't make us happy. The government can't make us happy.
     
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    What do you mean "We"?

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    Thanks for your honest takes and being a contributing member with an Otis Thorpe avatar
     
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    There’s racism everywhere by every group.
    It’s unique in America because of multiculturalism.

    it is really up to parenting and individuals experiencing diversity to decrease racism

    there is a false narrative that there are certain areas and regions that do not have racism .
     
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    I'm curious. Why do people pretend slavery was the last obstacle of systemic racism Blacks faced in the United States?
     
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    People need to be careful on group anger and group think, it causes them to not think as patiently as an individual would in a given situation.

    A friend of mine and her daughter were taking a walk down a street of a very progressive city @B-Bob
    and was harassed by a group of protestors who told her and her daughter that she was the cause of Black Americans problems .

    She told them in her thick Russian accent, "I'm from Russia, what does that have to do with your history?"
    They didn't answer her and just walked away.

    Making assumptions as a group is a problem , especially now.
     
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    I dunno.
     
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    Ya it's weird. Like you say their cultural identity is learning about the hardships of slavery but there was so much more,like another 100 years of Black Codes, Jim Crow, lynchings, police brutality, redlining...
     
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    I have a great deal of respect for the Tuskegee Airmen. About 15 years ago I was involved in helping plan out their yearly get togethers.... however, Americans would not be speaking German if not for the Tuskegee Airmen.
     
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    All of that is what it is, but what it is not is culture.
     
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    I agree! Racism in kids often stems from the views of parents. Many racists are people who are never around other cultures, and are scared of what they don't know or understand. They get a tainted viewpoint from others, the internet and tv. That can be people anywhere in America. Racism stems from ignorance. Plain and simple.

    People are people. We are all alike in so many ways. All anyone really wants and needs is to be able to live and love in peace, without fear, in a safe environment. Everyone has those same needs. Raising kids to understand that is so important.
     
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    Culture is nothing more than a group of people reacting to shared experiences of socioeconomic and enviromental factors. Culture is an effect. It's a reaction.

    Those things I mentioned like Jim Crow and Redlining shape culture.
     
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    Sounds like a personal problem to me.
     
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    I don't get it? We are talking about Black culture and how it formed.
     
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    From my experience, most people who reject culture either never had it or reject the culture they came from. Well, that's not exactly true, there are also those who value their own culture, see the power in culture, and devalue it for others because they like their position of power.
     
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    and this goes to what I've been mentioning about culture
    this tiktok , cable news, Facebook society is contributing to lazy parenting and further isolation from diversity.
    cancel culture is even worse, it just reacts to something people don't like.

    nobody wants to see the video of a puppy getting eaten by an alligator near the swamp.
    but everyone wants to see cute puppy videos swimming in the swamp.

    video of puppy getting killed shows that you shouldn't put your puppy around dangerous swamp land.
     
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    Okay what does that have to do with Black culture? Black culture formed from the experiences they faced as a community over multiple centuries from slavery to Jim Crow and Redlining. That's how culture firms. A group response to shared enviromental and socioeconomic factors.

    Every group of people have some form of culture because every group of people experience socioec5 and environmental factors.
     
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    racism is just one problem and issue, because people are more complicated than that.

    For example, I'm glad that Desaun Watson is not a racist because of the diversity of female masseuses he has had.
     

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