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I will shut down the government. I will take that mantle

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Imagine going to the white house for dinner and being served fast food
     
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    this intellectually dishonest MOFO, Kevin Hassett, the WH Council of Economic Advisers Chairman,
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    made this stupid comment,


    "...Federal workers furloughed because of the government shutdown might be “better off”
    after they return to work because they essentially are getting a free vacation ..."



    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/...urloughed-workers-are-better-off-because-they
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Historic. Congrats. This one is going into the history book.
     
  7. Harrisment

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    Trump’s own hotel is within walking distance!
     
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    How the hell does The Onion stay in business when reality is giving us images like this?
     
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    At around 55 seconds you can hear one of the players sarcastically say “so classy.” Look how dressed up these guys are for a once in a lifetime opportunity. And they get there and it’s self serve McDonalds.
     
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    There is real danger here.

    There does not seem to be any scenarios where the shut down ends. Trump is insane, McConnell is a coward and the Left simply cannot allow governance by temper tantrum.

    If this goes too six months, the furloughed employees, will just leave and find other jobs. They will have too, in order to survive. The bureaucracy will simply be non existent in numerous government institutions, which will have a snow ball effect across people's day to day lives. Its hard to even imagine the third world type chaos that would ensue.
     
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    He seems very proud of the "many, many french fries" he provided. And that it's "all American food...if it's American, I like it".



    The pure absurdity of this Administration is truly amazing.
     
  12. HTM

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    Pass
     
    #692 HTM, Jan 14, 2019
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    good article in the Post this morning about how this shutdown is seen as a win among "small government is better" conservatives

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...36fa44b80ba_story.html?utm_term=.a454a275b1dd

    The shutdown is giving some Trump advisers what they’ve long wanted: A smaller government

    By Lisa Rein Robert Costa and Danielle Paquette
    January 14 at 9:20 PM

    President Trump has cast the shuttering of federal agencies as a standoff over his plan to build a wall on the southern border. But for many White House aides and allies, the partial shutdown is advancing another long-standing priority: constraining the government.

    Prominent advisers to the president have forged their political careers in relentless pursuit of a lean federal budget and a reined-in bureaucracy. As a result, they have shown a high tolerance for keeping large swaths of the government dark, services offline and 800,000 federal workers without pay, with the shutdown having entered an unprecedented fourth week.

    Those encouraging a hard line include acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and acting White House budget director Russell T. Vought, as well as leaders of the House Freedom Caucus, whose members have taken on an influential role with the White House.

    Mulvaney and Vought have taken steps to blunt some of the shutdown’s most unpopular effects, calling back furloughed employees to process tax refunds, collect trash in national parks and ensure food stamps will continue to be issued.

    But Mulvaney is not rattled by the fallout and instead has been focused on protecting Trump from criticism, according to two administration officials who were not authorized to speak publicly.

    Mulvaney did momentarily urge compromise on funding for a wall in a meeting on Jan. 4, the officials said. But Trump quickly shot down his suggestion, and Mulvaney has since been in step with Trump.

    Reps. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) — leaders of the Freedom Caucus and the president’s top allies in the House — have urged Trump to stay the course. They have built national profiles with calls to slash federal spending — not as much on strengthening border security.

    The shutdown is “a means to an end for something they have long pursued, which is limiting the size and scope and role of government,” former House GOP staffer Kurt Bardella said of the conservative Freedom Caucus. Bardella became a Democrat in 2017.

    “These are small-government guys, not wall guys,” one former White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private exchanges, said of Meadows and Jordan.

    Conservatives have for decades questioned the size and effectiveness of the federal bureaucracy. The shutdown has in some ways underscored their view that government can function with fewer employees.

    “There’s a moment when people say, ‘Did you notice what percentage of this agency was viewed as nonessential?’ ” said anti-tax activist Grover Norquist.

    Former White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon called shutdowns “blunt-force measures that certainly show what’s essential and what’s not.”
    more at the link
     
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    I wonder how much they all paid him to pull this stunt. It's like an episode from the apprentice.
     
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    Small gov is better arg on day 30 of the shutdown. Let’s see what people think at day 60, 90, 120, 365.
     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    trump's government shutdown is also giving putin and russia what it wants... disruption of the Unites States government and institutions. Which will help trump in his next one-on-one performance review with his boss...
     
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    Only if Trump’s very, very large brain had thought of this, Trump could have been reimbursed a thousand dollar a head for catering the event!
     
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    Will the shut down pay for the tax cut for the top one percent?
     
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    The Washington Post editorial board attempts to goad Trump into agreeing to a deal with its headline editorial this morning

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...5fed1b7a081_story.html?utm_term=.5552568df216

    Forget Donald Trump. Congress can make a deal to end the shutdown.

    By Editorial Board
    January 14 at 7:20 PM

    FORGET DONALD TRUMP. The president — erratic, posturing, pandering and detail-averse — does not have the dealmaking chops to break the current deadlock with Democrats and reopen the government. That’s no excuse for Congress to sit on its hands. Instead of digging themselves deeper into their own trench of irreconciliation, why don’t lawmakers put a tough-minded deal on the president’s desk and force his hand?

    That deal, as many in Washington know and have advocated for months, involves a swap: Shield hundreds of thousands of “dreamers” from the threat of deportation, ensuring them the safe and secure lives they deserve in the country they’ve known since they were brought to this nation as children. On top of that, grant a reprieve to tens of thousands of Hondurans, Haitians and Salvadorans who have lived legally for years in the United States but now face the threat of removal as the administration rescinds their existing protections under the temporary protected status (TPS) program. In return, offer Mr. Trump some money to build his wall.

    Everyone gnashes their teeth over that tradeoff, proof that it contains the elements of a plausible compromise. There’s no shortage of House Democrats, reveling in their new majority, who say they will “never” fund Mr. Trump’s wall, nor even a portion of it. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), AWOL since the president flipped on a stopgap funding measure to keep the government running last month, remains in his sullen funk, refusing to bring legislation to a vote without Mr. Trump’s say-so. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) frames the debate, specifically the wall, in terms of morality — a surefire kiss of death.

    It may feel comfortable to wallow in the moral certainties of a No Deal, but why stoop to the president’s level? Newly elected Democrats who flipped previously GOP-held seats might take account of their swing-voting constituents who might be fine with a measure of creative conciliation that restarts the government. Democrats from Trump-hating districts can sell the deal as a rescue package for well more than 1 million dreamers and TPS recipients who face imminent and drastic threats to their futures. Republicans who want to build a wall can crow that they secured funding, at last, for a down payment on one.

    In a political age that has become solution-averse, these are the building blocks of an honorable way out from the current dead end. Of course, Mr. Trump will snarl, threaten a veto and maybe make good on that threat. If he does, the ball will be in his court, his hand forced to produce an alternative — or Congress can override, as the Constitution allows.

    Congress is a separate branch of government; it needn’t be paralyzed by a tantrum-prone president. The legislative branch is empowered to send legislation to the White House. Has it forgotten it has that prerogative?​
     
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    The hamburgler-in-chief must be getting butthurt about criticism over his turning the white house into the food court at the mall (what, no Sbarro?). And note, he even lies about how many hamburgers he bought (went from 300 to 1,000). Of course, noting he also misspelled hamburger... LOL.



    Previously... 300 hamburgers...

    Clemson won the natty and Trump bought them "300 hamburgers" and "many, many French fries"
    "All of our favorite foods"

    https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com...hem-300-hamburgers-and-many-many-french-fries
     

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