I will boycott anything that pig Michael Moore does

So you think he's unpatriotic for having an opinion?

 

Yao Ming said he's against the war. You gonna boycott him too?

 

MacBeth,

I have many friends and relatives living in Canada. And I have visited the Canada many times. What you say about Canada:

. . . seems to be true. Canada is a more peaceful place. But on the negative side, Canada's economy is nowhere near the US, and the unemployment rate is very high, while the tax rates are also high. Is Canada or the US a better place to live overall? This is a real question. I have no answer.

 

Huh? I hope you clicked on the wrong post brother, cuz I'm against boycotting.

 

yeah sorry about that. no edit function.

 

Did Yao Ming say it in the same classless and disrespectful way?

For those who say Moore has the right to speak his anti-war opinion are missing the point.

 

So he's unpatriotic for his choice of venue, not his opinion?

 

Is there anyway to say you don't support this war or the president that doesn't sound classless in some people's minds. I think not. Martin Sheen didn't come off like Moore, he's still Black Listed.

 

In some people's minds that may be the case, but I think Moore went off the deep end at the Oscars. I mentioned this in another thread or two, but the way he presented his 'argument' was very poor. Instead of presenting any sort of coherent argument, he rambled out a personal attack that had very little substance to it. Very classless, and it gives a black eye to the antiwar movement in the view of pro-war and, I daresay, many neutral people.

 

Oski,

Pease don't lump every Moore-bashers in the same camp just like you didn't like people to lump all anti-war activists in the same camp. Not everyone who thinks Moore's statement was out of line thinks every anti-war statements are out of line.

Rocketman,

I didn't say anything about unpatriotic. And yes, if Moore was anything unpatriotic, it was in his "choice of venue," not in his opinion. My beef with people like Moore is that they just stir up the emotional juice without giving any substance to the issue. They are clouding people's mind, which, if anything, is increasing hatred, rather than peace, as they claim they are advocating.

 

Darn, no edit, but I forgot to mention that the actor from the Pianist was incredibly classy and heartfelt in his speech. I don't know how anyone would argue that that was classless (besides some of the extremists). Defending what Moore said seems like a poor choice in advancing the antiwar stance among those who are moderate.

 

Huh? Link, please.

 

That is the point if you are doing a piece on economies or standard of living. If you are doing a piece on violence, then the real question is which is less violent. Bowling for Columbine was a piece on violence

 

There is some truth in what you say, as the greatest factor which leads some Canadians to relocate to the States is economic opportunity, but that is largely industry specific, mostly medical in nature, as what socialized medicine there is left up here keeps salaries in that filed somewhat lower...

In terms of the unemployment, taxation etc...not really that much of an issue. Unemployment rates are about 2.5 to 3% higher here...not really putting Canada in a different bracket. And taxation os comparable or better than the taxation faced were you to live in many, many US states, California for example, and is also accounted for to a degree by things like socialized health care, no toll booths,etc...

As to which place is a better place to live, it's so subjective...I do know that the annual Standard of Living studies done which ranks cities and countries as being the most favourable to live in consistently ranks Canda higher as a nation, and Canadian cities do much better ( Vancouver always vies for top spot overall...there's one for ya Grizzled) which suggests that for a general selection of what someone is looking for Canada is better, but that would obviously depend on your priorities as an individual. I do find Canada to be a nice balance myself, but I miss the weather in Florida.

 

Then why did you respond for the person who did? outlaw asked a question to JBIIRockets about his "unpatriotic" comment, then you jumped in.

 

outlaw was talking about Yao Ming having the same anti-war opinion as Moore so that we should boycott Yao if we boycott Moore. I jumped in because equating Yao with Moore clearly missed the point. It's not Moore's anti-war opinion, but the way he expressed his opinion.

 

He was talking to the person who said he wasn't going to see Moore because he was unpatriotic.

 

Why did I say unpatriotic?

not because he is against the war, but because he used the awards show to further press his point. If he truly cared about the soldiers he would not have taken the time to give himself so much attention on Hollywood's biggest stage.

Although it probably wasnt his intent, his popularity grew with his statements. To use the war to give attention to yourself is insulting.

 

If you have a message, shouldn't you try and get it accross to as many people as possible? Everybody knew this was coming, I can't imagine anybody who was surprised by what he did.

 

Are you saying that I should not reply to a post if it is not directly address to me? Or I can point out some inconsistency in a post only if that inconsistency relates to the post to which that post is replying?