I will boycott anything that pig Michael Moore does

You never addressed how Clinton's team agreed with Bush's team that Iraq is a direct threat to the US.

Deal with it.

 

No, it was orchestrated by the vast international Zionist conspiracy and the Bush-Cheney military Junta.

 

I was planning on posting in this thread...but I see no need to now. I couldn't say it any better than this.

 

No need for me to comment. I think the folks at the Oscars said it all.

 

You can dislike Moore if you want, that's your opinion, but to compare him to the rest of Hollywood shows your ignorance. The guy makes documentaries on issues that matter to real people's lives, not fantasy films. He takes chances with his work, and unlike most people in Hollywood, his work is meant to inform people about real issues. So comparing him to other actors who make films to make money is ridiculous, because his whole life is about speaking out, films, or otherwise.

 

This guy made millions advocating for poor people. He lives on the Upper West Side and send his kids to private schools. Michael Moore is a model for the people on the left who aspire to a life of honesty and principles.

ps. Isn't it racist to film a documentary on gun violence without mentioning one black victim when 50% of all gun deaths are African American?

 

Thanks for the compliment. It beats the alternative...the BBS "conservative" extremist mold that the Bush administration (1)does no wrong (2) always tells the truth and (3)has the best interests of the American people at the forefront of every decision they make and (4)questioning the motives of the Bush administration and/or the War in Iraq is anti-American and treasonous.

I agree with you. Eloquent he most certainly is not.

9/11 was most certainly not fiction, but what happened to the government's 9/11 investigations?

 

Yes, documentaries, not fantasy films.

Bowling for Columbine: Documentary or Fiction?

 

At first, I was going to post a short quip ala TheFreak, but I decided not to. Not because it would be uneffective, but I would like to leave little doubt about how I feel about this.

I am someone who leans more toward the conservative side, but I did vote for Gore in the 2000 election.

Personally, I wished that the US would have a neutral or almost isolationist foreign policy. Having to always help these other countries out is something I wish we wouldn't do. I understand that we do it because it helps strengthens our alliance with such and such country, but the fact remains now that we are the ONLY superpower left. Just for that reason, we are going to be hated, IMO.

Is Iraq a threat to the US? I would say that they are, but I don't think that they want to go looking for a fight with us. Unless there were some kind of provoking on Hussein's part, I wouldn't start a war with them.

However, we are in a war with them and it is time to support the troops over there.

Yes, we live in a country where you have the right to say what you want or feel, but I also think we need to have a country that is united.

Maybe I am a naivete, but I support the President of this country, even the ones I didn't vote for, simply because I believe in a united nation.

And idiots like this Moore character (who in the hell is he?) doing and saying what they did just makes me want to search him out and beat the hell out of him.

Be glad that you live in a country that lets you act and sound like a jackass, you damn moron.

 

He is. He's stated it repeatedly.

 

One side isn't any worse than the other. Extremism, regardless of political persuasion or religion or anything else, is dangerous. What dismays me is that there is no middle ground any more, and middle ground is what we need the most nowadays.

 

The Pianist is a great great movie. If his speech makes you watch it, that is cool, but I'd suggest anyone else go see it.

As for Michael Moore - at least it was funny. Nobody could have possibly taken it seriously, besides himself, and Steve Martin really handled it excellently.

 

As far as #4, That's the thing. A lot of times it doesn't even seem like "questioning." It's more like "Bush only wants oil" not "I question Bush's motives on this war. I believe this war is only about oil, because...." Now, that would be an argument that everyone could respect, provided is followed by <b>facts</b> suppporting the opinion.

It would make people a lot more sympathetic to your viewpoint if you just prefaced it with "in my opinion" followed by an explanation in support of that opinion. Even then, some people will still say "I think Bush only wants oil because....Iraq is not a threat to the U.S." That's just an opinion supported by another opinion, and doesn't constitute a rational argument in anyway whatsoever.

The way liberals claim they know exactly everything going through the Bush Administrations collective "head" just comes across as arrogant and gives the impression of nothing more that petty partisiniship and/or anti-Bushism.

Your #3 for example. Can you give some facts supporting that claim, please?

 

It's funny, every time someone gets criticized now. The response is invariably, "hey, I"m just using my right to express my opinion." Uh, dumbass, they're not booing your <i>right</i> to have an opinion, they're booing your opinion, itself. Take it like a man! Michael Moore comes off as a very insecure human being.

I wonder what he says when someone criticizes his movies as liberal-slanted, dishonest "documentaries." Moore: "Hey, I'm just excercising my right to make movies."

 

ZRB, can you clarify this for me? Do you mean more Americans lied and deceived people in film and in print? Micheal Moore was asked about inaccuracies in his work before and he shrugged it off saying it was comedy so it didn't have to be true. Somehow, however, that didn't prevent him from accepting the oscar last night for documentary. So what about his behaviour is so commendable?

 

It was interesting to watch the reactions of some of the Hollywood actors. It was like they couldn't believe it. Here is the guy with the opportunity to have only a polite little protest statement as expected, be lauded and coopted like a lot of the other stars and he didn't go for it.

Looking at it another way. The Academy thought that they could make Moore blink and they almost dared him to do this. Short of riggging the awards to keep undesireables like Moore from the podium they had done everything they could to not have something like this. The hosts were vetted to try to eliminate this type of speech. Some have said that the stars had to sign a statement saying they wouldn't speak out. It was good not to see Moore bow to a situation that was geared to provide maximum pressure to sell out.

 

really? you thought that was good, huh? i can't believe there's even a part of me that is surprised you thought it was "good." but there is.

 

Madmax, how it going today? Let's not get too personal.

I feel good after week in New Mexico not learning to ski and pulling a hip muscle after 20 minutes on my second day of lessons. 21 inches of new snow while we were there. Beautiful country around Ruidoso and a one day drive from Houston.