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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by el_locoteee, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. northeastfan

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    There it is ... those damn TOs again ....
     
  2. el_locoteee

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    Loosing to the Sixers is not that bad, We are really close to the pack one game won't hurt us, we can steal other games where we suppose to lose.

    When you hand a team a 50 point lost the worst I think of their franchise they will remember, they got nothing to play for so this game was their playoff game, any other bad team would give up after loosing like by 12 in the 4th, but they play their best today, Miller play out of his mind. And Houston just finish this game mentally in 3rd, Is hard to be pump playing them.

    A different story when you play the Spurs, Celtics, Dallas, Phx, Detroit of the world. Last game vs NO we got it won, just by the Refs making the right calls at the end, we play hard and with energy, because we where playing an Elite team.

    Sometime teams play down to the competition when they are 90% favorites to win the game, it was a trap game. maybe after the 3rd quarter they where thinking ahead to SA and just thinking they got the game in the pocket and the lose the momentum and was too late to get it back, that happen to every team, and a vivid sample is Detroit only 65 points vs the Knick that is almost impossible, but it just happen.
     
  3. northeastfan

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    Our margin for error is getting pretty small right now.... Unfortunately, every game counts including the one where the refs made a bunch of bad calls. The only issue is that the Piston can afford to lose 10 games and still be in the playoffs. We simply do not have that luxury.
     
  4. doublebogey

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    I dont like this thread title at all. It's a wrong attitude. It's like a sucker says he is not the only sucker in order to have some comfort for himself. Suckers always look for excuse, that's why they stay forever as suckers.
     
  5. MeatAndPotatoes

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    ya know it's funny cause i always argued this the other way around every other season. if i think that we realistically have no chance of winning against a certain team in a playoff series, i'm honest with myself. i've always thought our role-players would fall apart in all our playoff series in the recent years. i liked wesley and john but i knew good and damn well they'd be no help in the playoffs. Juwan Howard is s joke of a back-up pf, he was our starter for so long there...

    anyway, realistically, i think we have a very bright future. i'm not saying we're the best team in the league because i'd only know that if i was to watch every other game from the runners up, but i will say that we actually have a team here that is capable. more important than anything, we have a new coach who will eventually have this team shaped up into a consistently dominating team that will soon be one of the most feared.

    even through all our slumping and getting blown and embarrassed by pissy teams, it makes me feel good that most of the coaches around the league actually still speak so highly of the Rockets as on eof the elite teams in the league. That, speaks volumes. And just for fun, that fact also brings up the fact that coaches really try exploit the Rockets and prepare their teams to go against them with everything they have. The Rockets on the other hand, may be having problems mentally. Maybe they think, 'we just beat the pistons lol, then breathe out of relief as they play the raptors or knicks. The Rockets have had such heavy competition, it's only fair they get to relax i little bit. Well, the raptors came at them to their surprise and played a hell of a game. They were actually prepared for the fight, while the Rockets are just worn out from the schedule, fying all over the us, and trying to learn a whole new system all in a short amount of time.

    well, the rockets are coming around anyway. we've got more than enough talent and potential to compete. one way or another, the team will pan out
    and even if they lack the heart, they have so much talent that once they get comfortable in their new system and as the coach finds out everything about them, they will be a top contender as they become a fluid team. However, the playoffs are a much different challenge than the regular season and the rockets will have to have good team chemistry and communication if they want to advance. This is what will decide if they get a 1st/2nd round exit, or an NBA title.

    just look at our players written in paper and compare them individually to all the other best teams. Man for man, overall, we are one of the strongest teams in the entire league. then when you think about how the mavericks play as a team for example, or the pistons, and then you think how the rockets play, thats when you realize that the other teams are all just playing better together as a team, sharing the ball and trusting each other, helping each other. This will come for the rockets as the players not only learn the system, but become the system. The players have really bought into the system, it's now a matter of learning the system and improving every practice they have.

    Brooks, McGrady, Battier, Scola, Yao + read and react offense fully experienced = a real contender.

    the worst is out of the way and houston will become better and better with every practice. They really have so much room to advance. I think Tracy sees how much talent he's got on his team and he will find a way to make everyone better and play with confidence. I mean, every game last season he was out, he watched his team suck ass and lose over and over. This season, they're playing like warriors and with confidence. I think the team is going to be drastically improved day one with McGrady. They've been playing so hard, they've begun to forget how it feels to get easy, open shots around the court as tmac dishes them wide-open looks and breaks down the defense for them. We will look unstoppable when we play as a team in this offense. imagine battier, scola, hayes constantly cutting to the rim every time a double-team is set and they get instant layups or wide-open looks. They will be forced to guard Tracy one on one, and Yao one on one and will fail miserably. The role-players just have to stay in the game, that's all it is. Brooks, Scola, Battier, Hayes, Alston, hell that alone is enough heart and talent right there.
     
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    Not really no team have secure nothing they are to dam close one week you can be at the top of the Conference next week you are 5 or 6.

    The difference between the top 5 teams is 1 game, the next 5 teams are just separates by 4 games, Lakers just lost Byum for 2 weeks they can go down to 7 seed in a blink of the eye after being on top. More than Half of the season left, is way to early to panic, because everybody is way to close any of the Top 10 teams can get out of the playoff after a key injure.

    A few day ago we got to 5.5 games from 1 seed we can get back easily to 3 or 4 games back and get a 7 or 8 seed.
     
  7. el_locoteee

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    And Losers always look for a reason to feel as a victim and complain.

    The title is to remain us that anybody can lose to a bad team any time, the loser suicide trade happy posters around here 90% of the bard, make this lost look like the end of the world and make this team look like the T-Wolve.

    Read my post and you will see that I don't make excuse, just the reality of the game, It was a bad lost not the end of the world lost, because Houston can beat good teams. It happen every time that is why ppl gamble because any giving day the team that suppose to win lose. The good news is 82 games and there is a lot of time to make up for bad loses. We just need to stay healthy period.
     
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    This is from a poster in ISH

    As you see any team ahead of us can fall, Golden State hasn't play that well lately either. Is the west nothing is easy, nothing is secure. But as long as you stay above 500 you have a chance.
     
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    it's a damn shame that fans like you are 1 out of every 20, yet when whenever we start dominating, all these other fans will walk around here singing praises.

    This whole thing with Tracy McGrady really makes me sick. Like people don't even remember how good he was in the playoffs or that he was the only 1 who didn't choke etc. He starts this season absolutely incredible and gets hurt, banged up, and his team chokes, and then he gets blamed for everything that his rockets fans can pull out of their ass'.

    All those who are doubting, i'm taking names and saving them in my non-believers blog. I will post in big bold writing, all the blasphemy and utterly disgusting BS posts of your current feelings of these soft-ass rockets and mclady and no plyoffs this year etc.

    you will be kicked out in the cold with the rest of the evil nuancers and the rest of us will be inside laughing it up and pointing at you through the windows, drinking the finest ales, and celebrating our team.
     
  11. Northside Storm

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    Uh...

    People pissed and dissapointed after, well, a pissing and dissapointing game.

    Natural? Yeh. Seriously, considering the Rockets and how they were doing a week ago, this is a massive shock back to reality. People taking a moral high ground and beleiving in the Rockets like the Second Coming isin't helping.

    Besides, it's not a question of making the playoffs...I think the Rockets can do it. It's a question of actually, you know, WINNING a series. 7 or 8 seed WON'T get you there.
     
  12. MeatAndPotatoes

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    why the hell not??? our chances of beating the top teams are better then the lower seeds...


    top seeds right now:

    lakers... check
    spurs.... check
    blazers... check


    lower seeds

    mavs.... hell no
    suns.... pending
    golden state .... prolly not
     
  13. Northside Storm

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    Lakers aren't going to be first seed.
    Blazers aren't going to be third seed, not unless they go ballistic or something. The winning pace they're on is something I don't think a young team like them can carry.
    And banking on the fact we can beat the Spurs in a 7-game series? Uh. Huh.
     
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    Those teams can afford to lose those games while we cant. We arent sure how long TMac will blend in with the guys and the offense..so every win is really needed
     
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    well, we've got a coach who is only concerned about the big picture, not just scraping by with wins during the regular season and being extremely limited in the post-season.

    Adelman cares more about what he can do to really make this team a playoff contender. Sacrifices are made and rough stops will definitely occur during a reworking process.

    Hell as long as we are .500 heading into the 2nd half of the season, we still have a dominant chance of atleast making the playoffs. This team will pick up the pace as they get comfortable with the offense, and the more experience they get with it will improve their game through the practices that follow.

    Changes will still be made, and the team is still only JUST learning this offense. That means they understand the basics, they don't know the ins and outs and all the details that really make the offense shine. I think in clutch situations right now, the team just reverts to iso'ing yao/mcgrady simply because they're still not comfortable enough to run the offense during those tough situations.

    I'd say late Feb to early March, we will see the players really taking off with this offense and they will consistently improve upon it throughout the rest of the season. By the time the playoffs are here, they should have it down good enough to make an impression for themselves. Next year however, as long as Adelman is still the coach, i think we will be the tough dominating team that everyone assumed we would be right off the bat.

    I find it funny how Adelman himself stated before the season even started that sometimes in order for changes to made, sometimes you have to hit the bottom. Also he said that the team should look good with the offense around the all-star break time. Not only are we not there yet, but we've had so many setbacks with Francis, James, playing 2 rookies into our rotations where initially, we wouldn't have thought them to even play at all this season other then garbage minutes. Was all that a blessing in disguise as well??? Brooks and Landry, who would have thought they'd have done what they've done right now. Looks like we lost Francis and James, but the more i think about it, Brooks/Landry >>> Francis/James even if they played more to their potential.

    I think more about what is happing with this team in the big picture more than i think about how this work in progress f'd up a 4th qtr back to back. Ya, it's messed up, but we're not a balanced team yet and there's no need to worry. Especially when we've been doing all this without our best player, in a whole new system.
     
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    The only think that those teams can afford themselves to lose some games without problems.

    This team is fighting for playoffs, if you see someone injured Yao or T-Mac you can say bye to this season.
     
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    This is not about one game but game after game they keep repeating the same set of mind with no killer instinct.
     
  18. northeastfan

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    4th quarter collapses have been the trademark of this team for the last 3 seasons. We don't often come back from behind, but often blow leads (even really big leads late in the game). At some point, you've got to point to the players and say they can't play under pressure.
     
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    Sorry, I dont feel any victim.

    The Pistons lost to the Knicks in the last game of 4 games in 5 nights. The Bobcats basically beated the Celtics. If not for a stupid mistake the Bobcats made in 1st game, the Bobcats should lead the series vs the Celtics 2-0.

    The Rockets were rested and against a team with 7 games losing streak on their 2nd game of B2B. The Rockets are fighting for a playoff spot and there is no excuse for them to lose focus in 4th quarter. Any team can lose in a given night, but just not like that.

    The Rockets were not even having a bad night. The Sixers were not even playing good in 3 quarters. The Rockets just stopped playing in the 4th quarter. It's all about the characters of the players. It's not one of those loss in a bad night.

    Stay healthy or not really matters? The Rockets lost to the Raptors and the Sixers with T-Mac and Yao on the court. This team is having too much of those "given bad nights". That's why this team barely could win in last season without a 3rd quarter lead. And that's why this team blew its lead in 4th quarter from time to time in this season. It's just one of those "bad" nights - that seems to happen too often.

    Suckers' best excuse is "one of those given nights".
     
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    Honestly, recently, our guys have been nervy and looked anxious in the 4th
    hence making tons of mistakes particularly under pressure from opponents.
    I particularly find Head and Rafer very nervous which lead to carelessness.
    AB is also nervous but he's rookie. I would have expect Rafer to be ice cool
    as he has playoff experience. Head should be in the 4th except for the last shot game plan.
     

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