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I think the Rockets are being insincere about McGrady

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. Jeff Who

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    I tought Wafer era is over for you. BUDINGER!!!
     
  2. HowsMyDriving

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    wait, so when tracy torpoedoed your team last year with his knee-jerk (pun intended) decision to get microfracture surgery, he had good intentions? come on now. he wasn't trying to help the team win with that decision.

    regardless of how talented tracy is, he's been a piece of crap about this whole situation. he pissed in his own cheerios here.
     
  3. SmoothOperator

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    Hope your driving is better than your reading. You're stating an opinion that you don't back-up and you don't refute my logic. Guess you agree with me, but also suffer from blind McGrady hate syndrome. BmhS.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Smooth,

    The problem is the history here, Tracy seriously burned the organization last year with his announcement of surgery without even sitting down with the coach and GM.

    Seriously, I have no issue with Tracy doing whatever is best for his body, while under contract, that is smart, but going public without regard for whom is paying the bills is pretty low.

    And at the end of the day, when you screw someone over enough (and last year's in and out, and then the final straw of the MF announcement) you should expect them to be leary of anything he says or does.

    Insurance may have something to do with this, probably does, but the team needs to do what is right for itself, and right now, that is sitting Tracy....a few more wins if he plays will not help them be a contender, so why play him at all?

    I think for the good of the organization, the players, and fanbase, they just need to get a decent deal for the guy and let him go continue his career elsewhere....

    His time in Houston is done, IMO.

    DD
     
  5. HowsMyDriving

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    i dont agree with you.
     
  6. jwayne

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    Tracy is making $23 Million this season... In my opinion he isnt worth THAT kind of money. Sure, he is probably a good player still but not THAT good any longer. I dont have a problem with the Rockets making a wise business decision. The Rockets have moved on and they have a strategy that is not for us to know. We are fans of the Houston Rockets, we dont own them or have any idea of the "ins and outs" of the organization... Nor should we.
     
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    I agree with you that he didn't handle things well on the communication with the team about microfracture. He should have communicated directly before announcing the decision. No question.

    Apparently, though, the team isn't bad enough to tank effectively, so I want to try to win this year. Playing 0.500 ball and just missing or making the playoffs buys you the 13thish? pick? Your loverboy will have plenty of time to develop over the years and will still get minutes.

    If everyone expects the most from McGrady every second he's on the court, I think we should expect the same best effort from the management.
     
  8. Downtownbrown

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    If Mcgrady is not suppose to be back until Feburary according to doctors. I do not see what the problem is with the Rockets staff keeping Mcgrady from playing until their OWN doctors make sure he is good to go.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    But isn't managements goal to build a championship?

    And if they think the best way is to develop the players on the team rather than playing the ones that will more than likely walk, why not?

    I would rather see Brooks, Lowry, Ariza and CBud getting those shots and touches than a player whom is talented, injury prone and will more than likely leave at the end of the year.

    This team is fun to watch....they play hard, they compete, and they run.....let em learn.....IMO.

    DD
     
  10. RV6

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    so what, they're going to falsify the results of the MRI??? C'mon now, they have no reason to sit him down if the mri comes out ok, they'd basically be admitting they're doing ti for financial reasons. I'm sure tm-ac has access to his own mri results, it would get ugly if that happened, ugly as in the fans would become angry because the franchise pushed back the date for no legit reason, no need to risk that.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    They don't have to falsify anything, they can say, it is looking very good, but injuries like this take a year, we should adhere to that and let you continue rehabbing.

    Taking a more cautious approach, rarely are medical opinions about such matters completely in line.

    DD
     
  12. HowsMyDriving

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    agree with you here. having tracy does not make this a better team. he makes it a more talented team, but not a better team.

    the best "management" decision is not to play him, and let the new team play & gel. you cant just throw a guy like tracy into a team-first concept and expect it to survive. especially not contract-year tracy, when its pretty clear you won't be bringing him back.

    the team is finding ways to make up for his absence. its good for all of them as players to stretch themselves.
     
  13. RV6

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    and assuming the team/morey is holding tmac out for the money/insurance, it woud seem to me like adelman would have no say over that. He doesn't stand to gain anything from it, only les does and morey has to listen to les and look out for him basketball and money wise. Adelman has been cold about it because he's stuck in between, he wants tmac back if he's healthy, yet his boss says no, so adelman has to suck it up and not say much.
     
  14. JBIIRockets

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    Win what?

    The Rockets, with a McGrady coming off micro-fracture surgery and sans Yao, are not a championship contender. I mean, what's the ceiling of the Rockets if McGrady comes back and plays well? 5th or 6th seed at best.

    So I think playing him right now stunts the growth of the Rockets. I love that young guys like Landry and Budinger and Brooks are getting all these opportunities.
     
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  15. HowsMyDriving

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    when tracy was pulling his "i'll play today and not tomorrow, not back to backs, but sometimes this, sometimes that" bullcrap, Adelman was royally pissed. don't get it twisted, he does not like Tracy any more than anyone else does. It's safe to say nobody over there wants Tracy around.
     
  16. RV6

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    you wrote about stockton's 3 month rehab, the reason they take a year is because throughout the rehab the player shows he's not ready. As in, there's physical and medical evidence showing something still isn't right, and that goes on for up to a year until it's gone. That's not the case here. He's been pain free for MONTHS. No inflammation. No nothing. If he's tested right after a tough practice and there's nothing, medically, there's no reason to keep holding him back.

    And wasn't the timeline for thos surgery about 8-10 months, where did a year come from? :confused: Is morey rounding up?
     
  17. JBIIRockets

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    This thread reminds me of last year's T-Mac's Sports Sunday intro saying that "I'll be back soon. Don't count me out."

    Then a week later he misses the rest of year after that horrid game at Milwaukee.
     
  18. 1individual

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    At the end of the day both sides are looking at it from the money point of view.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    There is no actual evidence, it will be complete opinion about the MRI......

    Medical opinions are all that will matter.......

    DD
     
  20. RMGEEGEE

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    I have a solution...
    If the organization does really care about the money, and Tracy's knee is still in question...

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