I seriously don't understand the infatuation with Dwight Howard

Soooo you're saying sign Josh Smith instead of Dwight Howard?

 

Thats because every end result can't be for a superstar. These so-called superstars need a team to play with. You don't develop players just to trade them.

 

See this quote from Les Alexander (12/24/12):


“We’re not changing our team for anybody,” Alexander said. “We’re going to run for the next 10 years. We’re going to run forever. We’re going to run. I don’t care who the personnel is — we’re going to run.”


http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/12/running-to-wins-was-rockets%E2%80%99-plan-all-along/


It doesn't bode well for Dwight going to Houston as far as what Chris Broussard wrote today!!!!


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9427945/los-angeles-lakers-not-likely-re-sign-dwight-howard-sources-say

 

Yes, you cut-and-paste some impressive stats. I know I cringed whenever Harden threw those bullet-passes to Asik's lower body-- it almost seemed like James was trying to make Asik look bad at times. I still believe DHo's risk > reward, and, even if he plays better than he played last year, I'd rather stick with youth development.

Tell you what, if we get DHo, and he contributes on the court to getting us to the second round of the playoffs, I'll apologize for my stupid opinion and put $50 in the tip jar.

 

It seemed to make more sense than to slowly type it again myself out after going to hoopdata. It's probably why people made copy machines and printers -- just seems more efficient.

And TOs aren't the only stat on there that I was emphasizing. I was really emphasizing all of them. You'll have to better explain to me what "risk" Dwight is bringing to our team, and esp. how him joining stunts youth development more than it otherwise would be stunted anyways (we aren't going to get NO ONE this offseason).

But I like your style on the tip jar. I will match, obviously on the other end. Though we should probably have a better definition of "he contributes on the court."

 

Then you should have posted your dribble there.

 

Did not mean to denigrate copy-and-pasting. Heck, for "risks" I'd copy-and-paste the OP's list. But I'd be putting subjective opinions against your objective stats. You have the stronger argument. I have the bias against injured, older superstars borne of our T-Mac experience.

I guess "he contributes on the court," to me, would mean he puts up playoff MPG, PPG, RPG, and BPG as good as he put up in this year's playoffs-- and we get to the second round.

IF we get him, I'll be happy to eat crow. I'd root for him, and hope he turns into Superman again. But I'll be surprised if we get him. My hunch is, if we get him, we'll wind up giving up Lin and/or Asik, not to mention Delfino, Garcia, Brooks. DHo will be a very big investment.

 

That definition of contribution works for me. Maybe within 5% of those numbers or something, or some good faith reasonable variance from that baseline.

And why would you be surprised if we get him?
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=240294

I'd be surprised at this point if we didn't, though getting Howard is still by no means a lock. I just don't see why in the world we'd give up Lin/Asik for Howard when we can practically sign him outright. IF we can somehow get rid of Lin/Asik in a SnT to LAL for Dwight (they will NOT do this)...I would be ecstatic because it would mean we're pretty much able to offer CP3 a near max deal to come play here too haha. Not going to happen.

Delfino and Brooks are already gone. Always would be. Their contracts will not be picked up at the end of this month, and they'll be waived (unless we pick it up as part of a deal to trade to another team for a pick). We were never going to keep Delfino or Brooks. Same for Garcia. NO ONE was going to pick up Garcia's team option of $6.4M! Extremely overpaid. We'll let him go then fight for him in free agency I bet. He wants to come back (he said), so hopefully he will for the Room MLE at $2.6M.

 

My apologies. I didn't mean we have to spend the 12 million now so no, I'm not saying bring in Josh Smith. I would like LMA. But if we can't get him... Trade Robinson for a first round pick, make a couple of good picks, bring in an inexpensive free agent or two) and stay patient and see if a trade pops up. Harden fell out the sky. Morey may can make it rain again. No one will like the trade at the beginning but will be kissing his @$$ like they are doing now with Harden.

 

Your thoughts are too important to be lost among 100's of petty, insignificant peons scavenging dated Dwight threads.

Pay no attention to these mongrels! Thrust them beneath thy boots. I shall tweet your sermon to my 4 followers, and the world shall know thine truths!

Thread on!!!!

 

This thread is adding to the clutter that already exists in the GARM.

 

Well I'm actually a UF alumni and fan (which many here know) and quite familiar w/ Parsons, so I felt he had more to prove when he was given more freedom.

But regardless, from an unbiased view, I would say we were fortunate he did develop.

But 1) I don't rate their chances of developing into a Parsons-level player more than 50/50 (being generous).

And 2) We NEED much more than that, a DH level, top-3-in-your-position player to sniff the conference championships or finals. And I rate the chance that just one of them will accomplish that at 5%.

Basically the bird in the hand (100%) vs the 2 in the bush (5%). At those odds, it's an overwhelming no-brainer. Of course just my opinion on their potential.

 

You're right. You are sorry.

What a beta punk. lol.

 

me neither.

I had been thinking that Dallas would be potentially where he goes eventually, then this report came out today.

I also think for the Laker's gm Mitch Kupchak to say Howard is over back his injury is a little odd.

If he didn't want to lose him to another team, he would want them to have questions about that, in order to dissuade them from offering him a max contract.

I think he may be resigned to the fact that Howard is not going to resign, which is hardly devasting to them privately, so he said that because he is planning to offer a sign and trade with the Clippers, in case they may have too many reservations about his back to give up Griffin.

There were some media reports about the Sixers accusing the Lakers of being practically dishonest about Andrew Bynum's knees to fool them into that trade so this is something that you can not put past them.

 

Howard wont do anything sitting on the bench injured besides take the Rockets money

 

I wish pwnyxpress had linked (or relinked -?- for this thread) to the Simmons article when he mentioned it on page 2 and felt it is pretty accurate. It is a detailed, 10-point article that gives real context to what Howard brings (or takes away?) at this point in his career. Despite what you may think of Bill Simmon's opinions, it is a worthwhile read providing food for thought.

If Howard and the Rockets agree on his coming here it will be a gamble on both parts. I don't know what the FO's Plan B is if it doesn't work out.

 

Good grief. The analysis of everything that gets said and the creation of these preposterous theories is driving me nuts.

 

if Dwight had a problem with the Laker offense and coach how is Houston much different? IT's the same as when Kobe started running point. Lots of pick and roll, and Lin is like Nash in that offense, some play-making here and there and a whole lot of spot up shooting.

DOes he think they're going to throw the ball down low to him every other time down the floor?

 

Dwight can exist in the Rockets system just like Tyson Chandler can exist within the Knicks System. You got Harden and Lin who can attack, Parsons and Dwight who can take advantage of holes that H&L create and the 3 ballers. The only person who didn't exactly fit into the offensive system was Asik because of his weak hands, but he may improve a lot for next season, especially seeing his improvement from the start of this season.

BTW, Asik is the classic case of 'being groomed'. Even though his hands were sieves at times, his teammates still passed him the ball and let him make a play down low. His teammates expected him to shoulder some of the offense.

Midway through the season he stopped his fancy layups and started dunking, started catching more, and I do remember some of his stats in later games where he dominated mismatches in the paint.

Good job team for not putting Omer in the defense only box.