1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

I saw the "Expelled" movie last night

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rhester, Apr 24, 2008.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,255
    Likes Received:
    32,972
    uhm .. . did you read what I wrote

    Oski2005 said: There were laws against murder before our current concept of God.

    I SAID: Really?
    Maybe before the concept of ONE GOD
    or the modern concept of god
    but
    the concept of a higher being has been awhile for a while

    Which would me. . . .
    YES there were laws against murder BEFORE the concept of ONE god
    YES there were laws against murder BEFORE the Modern Concept of God
    HOWEVER
    The Concept of a Higher Being has been around for a while

    Rocket River
    perhaps I should has Higher Being or BEINGS
     
  2. velf

    velf Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Evolution may be many things, but it is NOT random. Also, note that evolution is NOT abiogenesis. Evolution simply explains a process how complexity can be generated from simplicity. It does NOT explain the origin of life.

    All these statements below are facts:
    - Organisms reproduce and leave offsprings.
    - During reproduction, genes are reshuffled and mutated, thus creating offsprings different from the parents and each other.
    - These variations matter in terms of their relative survival in the environment.
    - The variations that survive reproduce more offsprings.
    - There's limitless amount of environment possible in the world.

    You run this process for billions of years, and you get evolution. That's it. There's no controversy.

    It's worth noting that the human mind is terrible at comprehending large time scale. Yes, we can comprehend 100 years, but once you start increasing the order of magnitude to millions and billions, the brain simply comprehends it as "truckload of crap." Perhaps this explains why people have trouble accepting evolution.

    As for ID being shut out in academia, just imagine if some physicist starts espousing the theory of "intelligent falling" in alternative to the theory of gravity. His tenure would be revoked on the spot.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,168
    Likes Received:
    48,335
    Perhaps you should've as "One God" is primarily a Judeo Christian concept.
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,168
    Likes Received:
    48,335
    Very well put and I wish more people would understand what Evolution is and what it isn't. For instance I've debated with ID proponents before who said Evolution was flawed because it couldn't explain the origin of matter.
     

Share This Page