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I miss you Rick

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Nov 20, 2014.

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Do you miss Rick?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Richie_Rich

    Richie_Rich Member
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    Don't forget this guy!

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    LOVED me some Mr. Mean.

    Damn, where have the real BIGs gone?
     
  2. Kam

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    ****ty ass head coach. Thanks, Rudy's bladder.
     
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  3. cheke64

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    I hated rick. I thought he was a power tripper. Little did I know that Morey was hampering his staff and philosophy . 22 win streak and 2nd Rd playoffs. Im sorry Rick.
     
  4. Johndoe804

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    He was a great coach, but he never gave the young guys a shot, didn't make good in-game adjustments, and always called a timeout too late. McHale isn't a great system guy like Adelman was, but he'll at least call a timeout when the team needs it, he gives the young guys burn (moreso than Adelman ever did), and he at least trys to make adjustments in-game (albeit, it seems the adjustment is always to go small).
     
  5. Amel

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    Rick was way better than JVG or McHale

    We knew what we were getting when he coached. He could draw up excellent plays, especially late in the game. Wasn't stubborn on rotations and would put in a player that deserved to play.

    Too bad Rick wouldn't let Murray intrude, thats why Murray hired McHale
     
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  6. acsorelle4

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    I've wanted every coach gone since Van Gundy, and all of them for the same reasons. If the trend continues, imagine how bad the next doofus is going to be for me to miss Milkhair.
     
  7. DudeWah

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    Adelman wasn't stubborn on rotations? Lmao.

    JVG, Adelman, and McHale have that in common. They were all stubborn on rotations and didn't give young guys early or significant pt till they were forced to.
     
  8. BONIERO1576

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    You know that the Princeton Offense (much like the triangle) is a read and react offense, it doesn't rely on offensive "sets". The offense that McHale is implementing is closer to Adleman than something like Carlilse or Vogel where they actually call plays from the bench. Unfortunately, a system like that relies on a great amount of teamwork and chemistry which we just don't have yet.
     
  9. aelliott

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    All of those points on the fast break? Do you realize that we run much better under McHale than we did under Adelman? In fact, in two of Adelman's 4 years here were in the bottom two in the league in fastbreak points.
    Likewise, the offensive efficiency has been better under McHale.

    Adelman
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    2008 fast break points per game: 8.0 (29th) , off. efficiency: 1.034 (16th)
    2009 fast break points per game: 8.2 (30th) , off. efficiency: 1.049 (17th)
    2010 fast break points per game: 14.6 (14th) , off. efficiency: 1.046 (17th)
    2011 fast break points per game: 15.0 (9th) , off. efficiency: 1.076 (3rd)

    McHale
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    2012 fast break points per game: 13.6 (10th) , off. efficiency: 1.018 (13th)
    2013 fast break points per game: 18.3 (2nd) , off. efficiency: 1.057 (6th)
    2014 fast break points per game: 18.0 (3rd) , off. efficiency: 1.073 (5th)
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    you try finding some basketball rhymes for Puff Daddy's "i'll be missing you"
    brother
     
  11. Easy

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    Adelman's offense actually has sets. His sets allow multiple options for the players to read and react.

    The genius of that kind of offense is that it creates situations where the defense has to choose between stopping various options, thereby giving the offense the chance to exploit whatever the defense gives up. The catch is, it takes certain kind of smart players to execute the offense.

    Read and react offense and set offense are not mutually exclusive.
     
  12. sugrlndkid

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    People act as if though Rick was the reason Yao got hurt...just imagine if Mchale had a chance to coach Yao...James Harden and Dwight Howard are being run into the ground with a garbage sense and philosphy of offense. If you want to shoot the 3 or get to the rim for the easy 2...that is a decent view...its how its being acheived... The Rockets are consistently relying on outside jumpers. The team lacks a offensive post presence and inability to consistently pressure the teeth of the defense in the paint..aside for James Harden.

    The reason for Harden's inefficiency is completely due to Mchale's inability to have his players execute what he claims he is trying to do...Mchale is a garbage coach, a HOF player, and an above average exec. Rick Adelman would instantly change Harden's efficiency. ASAP.
     
  13. hakeemthagreat

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    Please don't compare Moreyball to what Adelman ran. The offense we run now involves high pick & rolls w/ a few a post ups. No ball movment, no backdoor screens and no cutting. The only thing they have in common is they're both uptempo. Adelman's offense involved many different options. Right now we have only 2, shoot 3 or drive. No comparison
     
  14. Teen Wolf

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    all of this. I'd take anyone of those guys right now.
     
  15. tinman

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    Rick Adelman has won playoff series with 3 teams, the Blazers, the Kings and the Rockets.

    He did what JVG could not do with a healthy Tmac and healthy Yao, win a playoff series. And in that series, they didn't even need T-mac, any version of him.

    We all know his Kings teams fought valiantly against the Lakers and people keep forgetting or are too young to remember, this guy coached the Blazers to the NBA Finals, twice! In a tough western conference.

    Rick has 1000 wins as a coach and he WILL GO TO THE HALL OF FAME as a COACH.

    So if you guys are happy with us just jacking up 3s like pop a shot, fine, we're not going anywhere playing like that.

    I don't know who our coach is , is it Kevin McHale or Steve Francis?
     
  16. Teen Wolf

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    i say this with all due respect; you sir are the worst GARM poster in all my years of lurking and posting. You're a dumbass in every sense of the word.
     
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  17. aelliott

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    Do you realize that Harden is one of the most efficient players in the league?
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    I personally prefer JVG's defense but I can't make a great argument for him over Adelman. I also think even without TMac, Adelman had a more talented team than JVG.
     
  19. aelliott

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    Maybe you should check out the actual numbers. Harden is way better than McGrady down the stretch. The closer to the end of the game it is, the bigger the difference.

    Last 5 Minutes +/- 3pts.
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    Harden 14-15 3 games 50% FG% 50% 3FG%
    Harden 13-14 31 games 41.4% FG% 50% 3FG%
    Harden 12-13 32 games 40.6% FG% 27.8% 3FG%

    McGrady 07-08 21 games 33.3% FG% 60% 3FG%
    McGrady 06-07 23 games 36.4% FG% 35.4% 3FG%
    McGrady 05-06 16 games 44% FG% 50% 3FG%
    McGrady 04-05 34 games 36.7% FG% 35.3% 3FG%

    Last 2 Minutes +/- 3pts.
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    Harden 14-15 3 games 50% fg% 50% 3fg%
    Harden 13-14 25 games 42.4% FG% 45.5% 3FG%
    Harden 12-13 27 games 31.4% FG% 18.2 3FG%

    McGrady 07-08 13 games 45.5% FG% 66.7 3FG%
    McGrady 06-07 22 games 32.3 FG% 33.3% 3FG%
    McGrady 05-06 14 games 33.3% FG% 33.3 3FG%
    McGrady 04-05 28 games 30% FG% 33.3% FG%

    Last 30 sec +/- 3pts.
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    Harden 14-15 3 games 50% FG% 50% 3FG%
    Harden 13-14 21 games 54.5% FG% 60% 3FG%
    Harden 12-13 20 games 33.3% FG% 25% 3FG%

    McGrady 07-08 11 games 0% FG% 0% 3FG%
    McGrady 06-07 21 games 9.1% FG% 0% 3FG%
    McGrady 05-06 13 games 30% FG% 0% 3FG%
    McGrady 04-05 27 games 40% FG% 20% 3FG%

    Last 10 sec +/- 3pts.
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    Harden 14-15 2 games 100% FG% (no 3pt shots attempted)
    Harden 13-14 16 games 50% FG% 50% 3FG%
    Harden 12-13 16 games 40% FG% 50% FG%

    McGrady 07-08 9 games 0% FG% (no 3pt shots attempted)
    McGrady 06-07 17 games 0% FG% 0% 3FG%
    McGrady 05-06 11 games 40% FG% 0% 3FG%
    McGrady 04-05 25 games 28.6% FG% 25% 3FG%

    Harden has been ridiculously good down the stretch as a member of the Rockets.

    Much is perception and people tend to remember 13 in 35 but that was just one game. Likewise, Kobe's clutch numbers are way below Harden's but people still think of him as clutch.
     
  20. Rip Van Rocket

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    remember when you wrote this letter to Adelman?
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5664905&postcount=1

    Clutchfans are never happy with the coach. There are always threads criticizing the coaching. Always threads wanting the coach fired. Fans of every team dislike their coach.

    I've decided to give credit and blame to the players. Players make turnovers, players miss free throws, players make stupid fouls. There is only so much a coach can do.

    It doesn't matter who the coach is, Clutchfans will be unhappy. Its been proven time and time again.
     

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