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  1. Seth

    Seth Member

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    Obviously having a perimeter threat will always end on a better performance of the inside guys, just check how better the spurs offense look the last couple of years adding players like Ginobili who can hit the 3 and penetrate.

    Tmac is our Ginobili and Yao is our Duncan. Ginobili is right now leading the +/- ranking for the Spurs and TMac must be the same for us, i hope when he is back he doesn´t take sooo many shots but only the best of them, now he know he can pass to Yao in the post or to Scola whose shots are usualy wide open.
     
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    both our "superstars" are fragile. if you told me that yao and tmac would play 60 games this season, i would take that in a heartbeat.
     
  3. hermbob

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    always quick to make excuses for losses. this is the NBA and every game is precious. you don't have the luxury to sit around and say things like "it'll take time" or "if guys weren't injured..."

    you never got that from JVG. he never made excuses about being tired or never pawned off any of the 05-06 season because of injury...all I'm saying.
     
  4. doublehh03

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    not necessarily. duncan won w/ avery johnson and sean elliot. shaq had a better winning % w/o kobe than kobe w/o shaq.

    it's just that yao is not mobile to beat fronting defenses. duncan can go outside to hit the mid-range J. shaq is so quick he can just use his pure power or u can just alley oop it to him.
     
  5. doublehh03

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    both will play at least 75 games this yr brother.
     
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    did adelman? he said that's part of the schedule and we can't dwell on that. he was angry at the defense.

    the posters can make the excuses, but adelman didn't.

    but yea, we just lost to the spurs and phoenix. whoopee doo, under JVG we would have lost too. they're the 2 best teams in the NBA. whoa, we should panic.

    again, get your pessimism elsewhere.
     
  7. hermbob

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    we also lost to memphis and the lakers...two losses that make the losses to the spurs and suns that much worse. instead of 8-3, we're 6-5.
     
  8. AntiSonic

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    If Adelman lets Francis play, that's an easy 12-15 ppg by default. Less of a load to carry for McGrady = more time he can rest = healthier for the playoffs.
     
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    Yep, tracy mcgrady in the play-off definetely turns up a notch. I don't know about Yao ming.
     
  10. doublehh03

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    even w/ francis in there, we still don't have a PG that can shoot consistently and that's why james remains our go-to PG down the stretch (and he has been recently).

    francis will never be a shooter. but i prefer him to play w/ the 2nd unit b/c he ca n penetrate, draw fouls.
     
  11. Desert_Rocket

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    Don't insult Duncan like that. The names Yao and Duncan should not ever be mentioned in the same sentance.
     
  12. KingCheetah

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    You weren't kidding -- you do have some amazingly insightful posts in the GARM.
     
  13. kryten128

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    Then you are insulting Duncan, you pathetic fool.
     
  14. ShadyMcGrady

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    That's understandable but...where does Francis fit in the rotation right now?

    If you look at strictly PGs, I know it's easy to throw Rafer out when you have SF3 waiting to replace him, but, do you think Steve would run the offense better than Rafer? As bad as Rafer is shooting the ball and trying to score the ball, he does a pretty good job at getting the ball to the right players where they want it, and Yao has stated that many times. If you think SF3 would be better than Rafer at that then I'm all for taking out Rafer. I mean their ball-handling skills should be about the same, and that IS Rafer's only other skill after all...

    Can you replace Mike James with Francis? I don't think so. Right now Mike is (although he has his off games) making things happen offensively that Rafer couldn't even dream about. He's a great go to option for scoring off the bench especially at the PG. But if you have MJ out there without T-Mac to regulate, then the other team has a harder time getting shots because he doesn't move the ball around like Rafer.

    Basically, you need Rafer on the floor to play the pure PG, and then for the scoring PG off the bench, well, that role is being taken by MJ whether that is good or bad. You can't play all 3, you're not giving enough minutes to each of them. Even if you want to, say, cut 5-10 minutes of Rafer's time for SF3, you're barely playing SF3 and then that's 5-10 MORE minutes the ball isn't being run by a traditional PG (of sorts).

    You can't play Francis OR James at SG because they are severly undersized unless we were going really small, and what are the chances. Bonzi and T-Mac already take that spot. Now that T-Mac is gone, SF3 should play more because there's only Snyder and Head waiting for T-Mac's minutes. I think SF3 is better than both of them, but that (like everything else) is up to the coach's decision based on the coach's opinion.

    Then there's the whole "Steve Francis is not trying his hardest while Rafer Alston is at least giving it his all" thing... You have to admit, benching Rafer (who at least is trying his ass off), or cutting his minutes and giving them to someone who is not trying his hardest to be in game shape and ready to play (from what I hear, that's what the original disagreement was about) would look really bad. Again, it's up to the coach to decide whether SF3's upgrade over Alston is worth more than setting good team values.
     
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    yao and duncan are comparable. but tmac and ginobili, now you're insulting tmac. i wish tmac is guarded like ginobili and has the responsibilities of ginobili.
     
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    DUde, I find it very hard pressed for anyone to still think Yao is our MVP. This is Tracy's team, always has been and will be
     
  17. gotoloveit2

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    YOH???? :rolleyes:
     
  18. AntiSonic

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    I don't think we need Alston anymore at this point.
     
  19. ParaSolid

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    If we could somehow combine MJ and Alston, that would be sweet
     
  20. gotoloveit2

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    The way the game is allowed to play in NBA nowadays, it's always much easier to neutralize a big guy down low by zoning and fronting, and outright shuffling, especially your pg kept on bricking. On the other hand, Tmac can always jack up all those 3's with still 20 seconds on the clock all night long.
    Albeit losing, DD is right on that our offense flows much better, as far as getting our role players involved. And on that, we would be a much better team in the long run. By the way, how's Scola doing, while Tmac was out. ;)
     
    #60 gotoloveit2, Nov 18, 2007
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