I agree Lin is the better PG and runs the offense better if in the same situation as Dragic. Not sure if you can say Dragic is a better fit here though, because look at who is our back-up PGs. Usually Lin or Harden has to pay with either of them to run the offense more often than not.
I strongly disagree with you that Lin is NOT a much better defender. I strongly disagree with you that Dragic is that much better at the fast break. Let me ask you something, you point to Lin's 12 and 6. Don't you think his 6 dimes would be higher if he had Gortat at the 5 than Asik so far? Don't you also think his 6 dimes would be higher if we shot more mid range jumpers than long 3's? Don't you think his 12 and 6 would both be higher with Kmart than Harden?
seriously. one thing that just blows my mind is the fact that people still keep saying he is TURNOVER PRONE AND HAS A TERRIBLE HANDLE. Do people watch games? or in fact, understand the game of basketball? smh. The weakness he needs to fix aren't those things. What he needs to fix is his shooting. Hell, anyone who watches the games will say that Harden gets his pocket picked more often on drives than any other player on our team. AND he also averages the most turnovers. wtf is wrong with people nowadays?
Lol u know Kmart didn't play much last year? Also if you're so big a LOF that you can't acknowledge that Dragic is one of the better fast break players in the league than we don't need to have this discussion.
welcome to today's NBA. Virtually every elite PG is a combo guard. If you're a pure point guard and your name's not Chris Paul you are not elite, or even in the conversation.
Well said. Look at what happened to Rose, to Linsanity last season and what is going to happen inevitably to Irving. It's much better off with the Heat's model.
where does this solid defense myth by Redick come from?? He can't even guard Kirk Hinrich! http://www.sportspickle.com/video/5269/jj-redick-sucks-at-defense-again
Definitely agree that riding one single player like a workhorse will only serve the purposes of creating physical damage, however with that being said, the big 3, and in particular Lebron and Wade, are so talented and good that they don't need a coach to help them gel together. Yes, the first year they lost, but look how far they went; some would say that the reason they lost was because Lebron choked. But the point is, Lebron is their #1 scoring option, Wade at #2, but both these players are superstars, meaning they can turn it on and off whenever they feel like it. Lin and Parsons cannot turn it on or off like Wade does, or in other words, I don't think Lin or Parsons can be consistently relied upon to dominate on demand. I do believe they can and they will, particularly Parsons; not so sure about Lin though simply because he himself believes Mchale in that "he is not a homerun type player," that "he is only a singles and doubles type of player." Wade as option #1 or option #2 or even option #3 is NOT that type of player in which Mchale implies.
In what world do point guards peak at 26 years of age? They peak when they're 30 and Dragić himself stated that was the main reason behind demanding a player option. He wanted to have a choice at 29 whether he stays with that team for one more year or leaves in free agency for a winning team where he could spent his best years.
Yes, if you rely on your athleticism. Point guards rely on smarts, and they hit their basketball peak at early 30s. Look no further than Jason Kidd or Steve Nash for that matter.
Just to play devil's advocate here, I'd like to argue this notion that players actually do peak. Yes, athletically they do, but what about other aspects of their game? Like Bryant and his fade way off of one foot which he swagga jacked from Nowitsky. But since the discussion is on PGs, let us say passing abilities? Passing, being a floor general, and creating plays is not as physically and athletically demanding as, say, dunking or constantly attacking the basket. People say Lin is better than Dragic in passing and offense initiation, though I would say they are not that far off from each other. Why can't Dragic improve in those areas? Do those 2 years in age difference really reflect the difference in upside?
Dragic at the age of 27 hasn't shown that he's a passer on par with Nash or Kidd. He's getting moved to SG in the 4th QTRS!!!!
To those saying dragic is a better defender than lin: have u watched suns games or are u just going by what he did last year? Lins drastically improved his d this yr and defensive metrics as well as eye test support that. On the other hand, dragics defensive metrics are not good.
Few people are on par with them. I just wanted to stress the fact that he's got a long way to go before landsliding, especially when he'll have the experience of being a starter 3 years from now.
Dragic has a ridiculously low basketball IQ for a point guard. I am very glad the Suns got stuck with him.
What you see out of Dragic and Lin are pretty much the players they're going to be. Neither has much upside.
Too early to say that about Lin at the age of 24, especially when he can penetrate so consistently, has good size, rebounds well, gets steals, draws fouls, etc. Basically all the things that bode well for the future.
Dragic plays on a garbage team where he gets to handle the rock and stat pad all game long. He doesn't have to play with a ball dominant guard like Harden. His numbers would go down and he would play at pretty much the same level as Lin. Dragic's jump shot is also shaky. His 3 point shot this season is actually about the same as Lin's(bad). Overall, he is a marginal PG like Lin maybe a bit better at best. He got too greedy and its his on fault. So good riddance. Besides he is old and pretty much has no upside left. He also does not have the marketing opinion that Lin has or the upside. It was a good decision to let him go.
The most impressive thing I've seen about Lin is his improved defense. He plays the passing lanes well and obviously has a high basketball IQ. Rarely is he out of place on rotations. His offense is the exact opposite to me. He does have good court vision but he turns the ball over far too often. He also gets in the air with no place to go. His lack of a jumper is going to cause teams to go underneath on him all the time next year. I think he'd be a really good guy coming off the bench and extremely effective helping out the second unit (not for our current roster obviously as he's the best guy we have at the point).
