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I might have stumbled upon the biggest secret in the world!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Ubiquitin, Jul 5, 2002.

  1. Achebe

    Achebe Member

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    I guess for the 6.2 billion people that don't live in California, the PC will have to do. :D
     
  2. TraJ

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    RocketmanTex,

    I only wish someone could have made the screen go blue. Now that would have been a real Bill Gates moment. :)
     
  3. lpbman

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    ugh... point taken KingCheetah

    I used Quark Express when I worked for a local newspaper

    only comes on Mac, tho it cost like $600 and wasn't anything special

    Mac = Checkers- simple, easy to master... the metric system

    PC = Chess- complicated but more powerful...

    well at least for games, and Bryce 5
     
  4. mrpaige

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    QuarkXPress is available on the PC and has been for many years.
     
  5. Lynus302

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    FWIW, I have never run across anything that I can't get or do on a Mac, and I've never owned anything else. Games are the lone exception, and the fact that I have an original iMac with an under-powered graphics chip has more to do with that than the actual games available.

    I college, my roommate and I loved to argue about Wintel vs Apple. Then after he had replaced his hard drive for about the third time, he gave up and had to use my Mac for about a month or two. Funny....we never argued again....and he now has a Mac.

    I can't stand Windows.
     
  6. Ottomaton

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    Am I the only one who finds it incredibly ironic that the 'iconoclastic individualists' who claim the Mac as their own, are actually backing the company that was so fascist/manipulative/self-agrandazing that they basically collapsed under the weight of their own unified company-line PR machine, giving the entire thing away to Wintel?
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    I hope you realise how completely out of step with reality this statement is. I can name you a dozen publishers in Houston that do their work on PC's, but none that do their stuff on Mac... There's also this little program for film called Maya. You might want to check it out. Works really great on multiprocessor systems running Win2K or Linux. Not to well on Mac... Also, outside of Digidesign, I'd dare you to come up with one recording industry hardware/software manufacture that isn't running away from Mac as fast as they can.

    You are living in your own little day-glow blue plastic iMac bubble.
     
  8. Refman

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    Not true. My sister is a technical writer in the industrial software industry and she has always used a PC.

    I personally have only had a PC crash once due to hardware. That was a dead hard drive. Any other time I have had a problem with a software issue. If the software is bad on a PC it is bad on a Mac. Of course then again, I build my own so that I know I'm getting good quality parts from top to bottom rather than just hitting the highlights like the big manufacturers (you know who you are).

    If you like Mac, spend the extra and get a Mac. If you like PCs, then go ahead and buy accordingly. If you are in business, then you may wish to consider that PC strngly, but in the end buy what you like...it's YOUR money.
     
  9. Mrs. JB

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    Ottoman -- That's an awful lot of venom directed at people based on their brand of computer. Sounds like it runs a little deeper than Windows vs. Mac.
     
  10. x34

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    I bought one for one of our graphics people not too long ago. Not a bad looking machine, and I must say it was very easy to set up (although Windows XP machines are not much harder). Although easy to use, I was unimpressed by OS 9...I imagine OS X is much better/powerful....

    Clever, maybe, but not entirely realistic. Most of the admins I know also have complete mockup domains at home for testing/training use. This would be simply impossible with a Mac or several Macs. VirtualPC is good for emulating applications, but doesn't cut if for serious admins...

    True, to a point. Wintel PCs have really closed the performance gap in multimedia/graphics/audio in recent years. Macs are no longer the runaway performance leaders in these fields. In fact, although much of these industries still PREFER Macs, many are moving to Windows-based PCs because of the price/performance ratio and upgradeability not available in Macs...

    That said, there is definitely a niche market for Macs. As previously mentioned, they are still the easiest PCs to use. They are very stable (which should be expected, considering Apple has a very limited hardware/software base to support), and they are very "pretty". The major marketing mistakes were made years ago, however, which is why they will never capture a significant market share ('clever' marketing ads, aside)...
     
  11. Jeff

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    A couple of points...

    My post about publishing and recording was a little jab joke at Achebe. It was not meant to be a blanket assessment of those industries. Generally, the graphic industry and major publishing (newspaper and magazine) industries are dominated by Mac but it isn't a hard and fast rule.

    As for recording (a subject I know intimately), the only REALLY significant software developed only for PC is Sonic Foundry stuff like Acid Pro. Go into any major recording studio (or minor one) on the planet and you'll find a Mac in the studio. If there is a PC in the place, it is in the business office. I get basically every recording magazine and, while the PC is definitely gaining steam, it has a ways to go when it comes to Mac in the studio.

    Now, ottoman, what the hell? Did Steve Jobs personally piss in your cereal or something? It's a computer for God's sake! Your freak out would be like me saying, "You drink Pepsi? I drink Coke you fascist!" It's just silly.

    I've used both in the past and I'm sure I'll use both in the future. I like Mac for myself but I'm not naive enough to think that it is the be-all-end-all for the universe.

    Honestly, otto, you might need to take a deep breath and remember that it is just a plastic box (or bubble). Why people get so nuts over the personal choice of a computer is beyond me.

    x34: Really good points. Thanks for being a voice of sanity. I agree that OS X really seems very cool. I just have to get used to it.
     

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