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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Since75, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. BEXCELANT

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    This glue guy thing is overrated.
     
  2. Since75

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    Do you think Battier fits Adelman's system? If so how. Compare Pavlovic in that regard. What championship caliber team are you speaking of. The Rockets are not there as currently assembled.
     
  3. krockets

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    Pavlovic only shot 58 three pointers last year, I don't think that means anything, the sample is too small..
     
  4. FFz

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    Doug Christie did pretty well in Adelman's system, and I KNOW Battier is better than Doug Christie.
     
  5. Since75

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    It means he has the ability to do more than shoot wide open 3's. His game is more versatile because he can put the ball on the floor and get to the whole. Battier cannot do that. I wish everyone would start to open their eyes to Battier's weaknesses which were exposed in the Utah series by the way.
     
  6. Since75

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    Doug Christie also was more athletic than Battier.
     
  7. Since75

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    And he wasn't relied upon to be the 3rd scorer on that Sacramento team. Remember Bibby, Webber, Peja? Rockets have Tmac, Yao and ??????
     
  8. krockets

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    Battier has a bigger name for a reason, and Pavlovic isn't well known for a reason, in the NBA, you need to prove yourself to be someone. At this point, Pavlovic hasn't prove anything yet, neither from the games I watched nor from his stats..
     
  9. Since75

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    What reason? Because he played at Duke and was a lottery pick in a weak draft? What had he done at Memphis? Let's talk bball skills. Pavlovic has been in the league what 4 seasons. How long did it take Battier to become the player he is currently and by the way his game has not changed at all from college to the NBA. He's limited plan and simple. He brings some intangibles and I love that. But I honestly believe that a younger player like Pavlovic given the same opportunity will be as good if not better.
     
  10. krockets

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    Yes, that might be the only thing that Pavlovic is slightly superior than Battier, other than that, Battiers are better, experience, hustle, higher BB IQ, rebound, steal, taking charge and etc..
     
  11. cz4ever

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    Battier is a far better wing defender -- one of the best in the league -- and a solid spot up shooter. You don't win games by playing five offensive-minded players who can't play lock down defense in the playoffs. You don't need five players who can all create their own shot. T-Mac's complaint is because there are often three players on the court who can't create shots (Rafer, Hayes, and Battier), plus Yao obviously doesn't create from the perimeter. Add me to the camp who prefers Battier.
     
  12. krockets

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    Yes, you said it.. Pavlovic has spend 4 years in the league, but I bet many ppl on this forum don't really know who he is..
     
  13. rockbox

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    What has Battier proven except playing worse in the playoffs. The problem with playoffs that give you 110 percent every game is that he can't give you any more when the going gets tough. Battier is a valuable player but he isn't untouchable. Jerry West figured that one out last year.
     
  14. dntrwl

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    lets just say if these two dudes were GLUE:
    Battier would be the super-reliable that sticks for a long time
    Pavlovic would be the ****ty paste from Mexico that looks like it would be good to some, but to the people that know glue, it don't stick
     
  15. Since75

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    Now you're insulting many people on this board. I believe that many knowledgeable fans on this bbs know some of the most obscure players in the league. Again name recognition is irrelevant. The question is can the guy play?
     
  16. Since75

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    I hope I'm wrong, but that could be construed as a racist comment in my estimation. I just want to talk about basketball and a players with skill who can help the Rockets. I'll leave the not funny comments to others.
     
  17. krockets

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    I never say Battier is untouchable, I don't might trading Battier if there is a hella good trade coming along. But I do want to say that I won't bet on some unproven SF for a proven SF like Battier. Not to mention SF isn't one of the spots that we really to focus on at this moment..
     
  18. New Jack

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    Battier is a better 3-point shooter, but is inferior to Christie in pretty much every other aspect of the game (ballhandling, passing, playmaking, steals, more versatile defender that could guard smaller quicker guards than Battier, etc).

    Pavlovic is a good fit in Adelman's system, possibly a better fit than Battier, but I wouldn't trade Battier for him. I'm hoping Battier's trade value is high enough to get a better player than Pavlovic.
     
  19. Since75

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    It amazes me that everyone keeps speaking of Battier defensively as if he just shut down any of Utah's perimeter players. He didn't. I never said we needed five players who can create. Yao doesn't have to create. The ball is delivered to him. By the way the three you named included Battier. I only proposed moving Battier, who happens to be a perimeter player. Which happens to be a position where most players create,not from the center position.
     
  20. krockets

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    Each ppl might have their own opinion, from what I see so far, Pavlovic can play, but he is not as good as Battier..
     

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