It's not an obsession with Portland- it's just a pure hatred of the Fakers. I will root strongly for any team that plays them. And I'm just saying Portland should have won. They just gave the game away. LA didn't earn it- it was handed to them. Therefore I don't think they deserve to be in the Finals because they relied on another team's screwups to bail them out against a team they were clearly less talented than. That's all I'm saying. ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is.
I hate Kobe for his, addidas commercials... the way he desperately needs a haircut the way he acted towards his coach last year and refused to execute the game plan the way Bob Costas has a penile eruption at every made shot of his His overall cockiness and most importantly...the colors he wears on his back during NBA games. do you need more reasons?
Some people just don't get it! It doesn't matter who has the better team. I love to look at matchups, enjoy watching a well-rounded team, and appreciate the nuances of coaching strategy. But the bottom line is the best player wins every single year. For the last decade the best player in the league has won the championship every single time. And Portland, for all its depth, doesn't have anyone who is even close to that description. For the same reason, Indy doesn't have a chance. OK, they don't stand a chance for alot of other reasons too. LA in 5. ------------------
Francis3- I agree with you. Shaq deserves a title. He has been the best, and most dominating, player in the league this year. The orgniztion did a nice job of putting a team together with superstars (Shaq & Kobe), & veteran role players (AC, Harper, Horry) & the outside shooting of Rice. LA deserves it this year. ------------------
Yes there is an obviously better team. Portland. They would have won this series easily if not being screwed in games 3 and 7. And also, one quarter of bad play doesn't mean one thing towards determining who the better team is. You have to look at the overall picture. And as for the scoreboard, I could care less. In my book, Portland is the best team for this season, and LA or Indiana has an asterick. LA for having the title handed to them and cheating, and Indiana (if they win) for not playing the best team. ------------------
Man. I just don't get it. Cat, will you please look closely at what you just posted. I'm getting tired of hashing this but if you're going to keep putting this stuff up... At least I can thank you for inserting such a blatant oxymoron for me. If a team just gives a game away, THEN THEY SHOULDN'T WIN.
True, you caught me there. My bad. That wasn't the point I was trying to make though. What I was trying to say is based on talent and the way the series had gone, Portland should have won. A better statement would have been "Portland had a much better team. They just gave the game away." That's what I was trying to get across. Sorry for the confusion and making it sound stupid. (Now that I pay close attention it did) ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is.
LA should sign Bob Costas so that he can live out his wet dream of following kobe around...seriously, any real fan cant respect anyone is put into NBC's announcer booth, theyre just so puppet-like and ridiculous. the best trio in the biz has got to be Ainge, Thompson and Harlan. Those 3 have real insight for the game and dont even have to agree to present great, yet contrasting viewpoints of the game and its players. as far as "the Jet" commenting next to "the Glove", its seems funny to me since Mr.Glove used to own lil'Kenny. ------------------ purvis was never short.
WHY THE BLAZERS LOST [not why the lakers won] #1 reason is not the Refs. . . COACHING WHY OH WHY did Smitty not get the ball in the stretch of misses. He KILLED the lakers in the run . . . but in the RETCH [er STRETCH] he touched the ball once or twice. . . When he touched it in the last 2 minutes Good things happened! [Sheed 3 . . Foul but it was not called] The Refs did their parts [Fouls . . If Scottie was illegal all game. . WHAT THE HELL WAS SHAQ THE WHOLE D*MN SERIES. . . Kobie was so illegal during the retch . .. that it was sinful.] The Blazers did not run their offense. [notice LA was missing big time in the 4th too. esp Kobie 'Crazy Shot' bryant] Rocket River ------------------
Smith pushed Shaq? LOL. I haven't even seen a real Faker fan with the guts to say that wasn't a foul. If you taped the game (I did) take a look. It wasn't even close. Shaq hammered him. ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is.
Cat- In your reply to my earlier post, the only thing you did was change "Portland should have won" to "Portland has a much better team." From your numerous posts on this subject, it's pretty clear to all of us that you equate a so-called "better team" with who should win, regardless of who actually wins. Tell you what: instead of playing games, where players are resposible for living up to their talent, their contract, their desire to win, lets just play mathematical games. We can just use formulas to determine who is the better team, and voila! No game is necessary! No more messy, sweaty, physical contact. No more getting referees involved! We don't have to see who has those "intangibles" people keep talking about! No need to test mental toughness, in the most intense mental test in all of professional basketball: GAME SEVEN, FOURTH QUARTER! If it is determined that a team should win because they are the better team, then the outcome of the game no longer matters! Even if they lose, they really should have won and the other team doesn't deserve their victory! This is awesome! The Rockets are the best team! We should be in the playoffs! All those losses were to worse teams who didn't deserve to win! WE'RE THE WORLD CHAMPIONS AND NOBODY KNOWS IT! GOD THAT PISSES ME OFF! You want to talk about blown calls? Let's talk NY-Miami. How about giving a timeout to a team when the team didn't even ask for it? Now that's pretty outrageous- perhaps even more outrageous than any "call" or "non-call" I've ever heard of. But Miami still would have lost the damn game regardless. They couldn't execute. They were not the better team. They lost. The only game in my life that I can remember was truly decided wrongly by a (non) call was the NY-Miami regular season game last year when the refs didn't call a shot-clock violation on Miami's last shot which went in and won them the game. That is the only exception I will make-the last possible call on the last possible play; with no potential screw ups or "what-ifs" to follow it. Game seven on Sunday was not even close to that. No way. That game was decided by players, end of story. And the better team won. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Cat, I can't believe how many excellent arguments you excuse your way out of with details. Ten minutes instead of a half. One non-call. And that's all it was. One non-call, amidst plenty favoring either team. Even if that call was made, it still wouldn't have assured the Blazers tying the game, much less a victory. I already pointed that out thoroughly in another thread, but you didn't address it, perhaps you didn't think of a good excuse for that one and just left it alone. Here's another example: Rockets vs. Utah in the Western Conference playoffs. Nobody is more despicable than the Jazz. You call Lakers cheaters, but the label doesn't fit. They don't even really know how to work the refs. Now the Jazz, they are the dirtiest team in the league. Furthermore, we were all looking forward to beating them once again and playing the Bulls, which would be a dream matchup and an opportunity to obliterate the asterisk on our past titles. Game Six, at home, fourth quarter. We have a 10-12 point lead with minutes remaining. We lose the entire lead, and Utah wins the game on the last shot. Now Cat, I want you to listen close to this: I don't give a damn that the refs didn't call Malone's illegal pick on the last play. We never should have let them back into the game, period. If you can't protect a lead in the fourth quarter of any game in the playoffs, you don't deserve to win. If you can't win a series, then you are not the better team. That's right, I said it. The Jazz were the better team, and Barkley himself said so in a despairing interview after the game. At the most crucial moment, when the game counted the most, the Jazz executed, and we did not. They were the better team, and winning the series showed that. How can I admit that the Jazz, my most hated team in all of sports, was better than my beloved Rocks? Because I'm a man, and I don't whine about "what-ifs." You want to talk about pain? Pain is knowing true defeat. Pain is knowing that you are responsible for loss. And that's why you keep posting about this, and avoiding facts, and trying to convince everyone on the BBS that "Portland was the better team" and "the Lakers didn't deserve to win" (and by the way, the only reason I'm putting so much time into this is because you are so aggressively trying to convince the rest of us.) You refuse to face that the Lakers were indeed the better team. Tell you what- do that entire series over, put the Rocks in there instead of Portland, with the same fouls, etc. I still say the same thing. We should have executed, we should have hit our shots when they counted most. Lakers won. They deserve it. They're the better team. [This message has been edited by Nolen (edited June 06, 2000).]
Um... going back to New York/ Miami, replays CLEARLY showed Childs and Camby calling timeout before Spree went out of bounds, so that was legal. Also, what about that Anthony Carter shot by Miami this year that went over the backboard? That was a game decided by a ref on a no-call. There's almost no point in arguing, because I know you won't change your opinion and I certainly won't change mine. You said "how do you know they would have tied the game". However, how do you know that they wouldn't have? My point is, you never know because the officials took away their chance. I know you aren't going to change your opinion that LA was the better team, and I know for a fact I'll always believe Portland was the better team. So let's drop it. There's no point in this because we aren't going to change what the other thinks. And by the way, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm just stating my opinion on this game. Isn't that what the BBS is for- letting everyone share their opinions? ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is. [This message has been edited by The Cat (edited June 06, 2000).]
Cat- that's cool- you're totally entitled to your opinion. I recall from an earlier thread you stated that you wanted to correct anyone on the subject when it came up because you were so angry. If that's not the case, I will be happy not to talk about it any more.
Yeah- I shouldn't have said that. I was just saying that if I heard someone talking about how great the Fakers were, I would state my opinion on them and the series cause I felt many comments people were making were quite out of line. But like I said, I shouldn't have said that. I was (and still am to a certain degree) VERY upset over what happened Sunday night. Like I said, it hurt bad, and I didn't take it as well as I could have and should have. ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is.
Portland should have won......But they didn't. Case closed. Nothing else really matters, so let's get back to talking about that Duncan-Cato trade. ------------------ "Stranger things have happened, but none stranger than this" - Commentator after a parachutist landed in the ring of a Holyfield fight
Purvis, the best color man in the game, BY FAR is Bob Cousy on Celtic broadcasts. The guy has forgotten more about basketball than most of the other clowns know.
The Cat: You continually say that the Lakers did not deserve to win that game, and they were handed the win, etc, yada yada... In 1995, Game 7 of the Western Conference Semi-Finals, the Phoenix Suns got hot and rolled off to a huge first-half deficit. The Houston Rockets fought back through tough defense and clutch play, and eventually won the game. So did the Suns just hand the Rockets the series [and eventual championship]?
One half doesn't equal ten minutes of one quarter. If Portland was up 16 in the first half, I wouldn't be as upset. Also, I don't seem to recall Hakeem flooring any Suns player in the last minute of the game and getting away with it... ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is.
Hey Cat, it shows portland needs to play 48 minutes not 36. Lakers didnt give up and blazers just ****ed it up for themselves. Lakers won and its final. Besides that Smith play, smith pushed shaq and fell. ------------------ President of the Moochie Norris FAN CLUB
