I simply commented on what teams were looking for in a starting 5. Either stretch capability or providing paint defense. According to NBA.COM for 23-24 season. Starting C’s who avg at least 25 min and started 30 games with more than 2 attempts per game and 30% and above: Embiid Wendel Carter Turner Holmgren Jaren Jackson Collins (played 5 on defense in lineup with Markenon) Jokic Porzingis Lopez Victor Vucevic (only shot 29.2% but career .341) KAT (PF last year but natural C and currently a C with NY) That’s 12 players. The rest of starting centers are big lengthy paint protectors (Hart, Allen, Gobert, Capella etc). That seems to be the mold of what coaches want in today’s NBA. Again Sengun is neither but still is a special player that’s why he’s in the NBA even if he doesn’t fit this stretch or defensive big mold.
Who attacked Sengun? No one here has used your typical language when you criticize a player (bad, trash, garbage, sucks). There’s a difference between an assessment and judgement or hatred. You need to distinguish between the two before opening your mouth.
The benefits would be more intangible things like peace of mind and a sense of stability for the player. Also, this is just speculation but maybe Sengun is willing to take less than the max now, vs if he has a dominant season he may want the full max. Just spitballing.
Oh I don't believe that at all. Model around the best. It's already being achieved, we're not the ones pioneering it. If you don't have that C you're at a disadvantage. Either develop it internally or acquire it. "It's too hard to do" is not going to get anyone a championship. Yes the unique things champions can do are hard to achieve. We have to do hard things. 2 non-shooters on the floor is rarer than having a stretch 5 btw.
I agree especially when the model is you either get a stretch guy or a paint defender or if you’re lucky you get a 2 for 1 (Turner, Embiid, Porzingis). This is todays game like it or not.
KAT was a C, and this year with Knicks will be one, but last couple years Gobert was C. In that case, Wolves (GM/coach) opted Rudy (a non stretch 5) despite having the option of having KAT as the 5. They sacrificed spacing for defense. A trade off. Wemby's 3pt is 32%. That's well below average. Vuc is gray area; JJJ is really a stretch 4 PF, despite playing the C out of necessity. His best use has been with a traditional 5 in Steven Adams. This year if they can help it it's with another non stretch 5 in Zach Edey. Finch knew this, and Kerr tried Jjj as the 5 and got ridiculed for it. Side note: last year he shot 32%. Sam Veceni even called JJJ out recently that he's been living off of his first two good years in the league. JJJ can do some stretching, it's equivalent of us hoping Jabari (4/PF) can be more consistent at 3pt.
Im not sure what you’re arguing and you’re simply proving my point. Centers have 2 prototypes and a few hybrids in between whether you like it or not.
Anxiety among JalenSuckers is through the roof...my God! They need serious help from Jalen tonight to stay afloat.
I'm saying out of the 12, some of them aren't stretch centers. And most of those guys are not on the market.
If that language was applicable, then you SHOULD use it.... but it's not. C'mon guy, you have to know this nonsense is absolutely transparent, you aren't fooling anyone.
Just going by how NBA.Com defined it and what position and role they played in their lineups last year. I already mentioned KAT so your point was redundant. Jackson maybe not a true C but that’s what he played last year.
That's fine if only C's from last year, but if you do that, the 3pt % has to be from last year as well. In which case, guys like Wemby, JJJ, Vuc, didn't crack above 35% in three point shooting.
Lol That’s why your posts are mere opinions rooted in bias and hate and never taken seriously especially when you never have any analysis of the play on the court or what the right play or decision looks like. Oh btw you did “assess” Amen before last season saying he’s a “6’7 Giannis” and not a “real NBA player” lmao. You have always and will continue to be the least knowledgeable person on this board not to mention trashiest. Straight garbage lmao
Lol see how unhinged and emotional you are right now? Your guy has to have a good game tonight, you need it more than he does. I do find it funny that it's EXACTLY the same people who are constantly running defense for a draft bust saying that we need to wait 10 or 15 years to judge him who are attacking hands down the best player on the team the past 2 years.... who is even younger than your guy, simply because that center can't shoot the 3 better than the SHOOTING guard you are always simping for. Again my guy, your shtick is FAR too transparent for anyone to buy it.
Didn’t say anything about league avg. Im talking about guys that have more than 2 attempts. teams still have to defend them out there just like how they have to run out to guards that shoot “below league avg.” no one is actively not guarding SGA or Jaylen Brown (both shoot below league avg). Again it’s about ability and capability.
Any Assessments or player critiques of Sengun will not be allowed on this fan site according to @Bobbythegreat despite absolutely no one disparaging or using his dumbass hate language to describe players.
emotional? Lmao another judgement rooted in conjecture and assumption. You’re really good at that. Lmao
