I have seen enough !! (The Francis and Mobley are dumb thread)

He becomes Moochie Lite.

 

Actually I believe Steve has a kinda of loser's mentality after so many years' no playoffs. And his dumbness affect the whole team.

 

The Guards are playing so horrible in the last couple of weeks.

Also, our Big guy at Center has been playing very weak the past couple of games. He really needs to demand the ball.

I believe it is time that the Rockets make some kind of move. I think Cat needs to go.

 

Damn DaDa.....



Time for a Xanax or perhaps some herbal medications would help. I know a great therapist - supposed to be the best in Austin. Email me.

 

FS and Cat all good NBA player if they don't in one team.
They all like shot and don't know how to distribute ball.
They only consist statistics and how to be hero.

 

They are good NBA players if each team includes only 2 players.

 

Um... the trade was not for Alvin Williams, it's for Jerome Williams.

 

yea yea yea
just blaming them because they short

Rocket River

 

If nothing else, think about how we had 10 or fewer assists in recent games, and our starting point guard got, what?, 1 and 3 assists in these games; and our starting point guard had 8 turnovers....

Panic instead of poise.

 

This is only a legitimate criticism if you DON'T think that Yao should get the ball more.

Either Steve dominates the ball and racks up assists by playing the two man game, drive and dish, etc, OR

he dumps it in to Yao early in the shot clock, (or passes to someone who does) and comes off a screen or cuts to the basket, in which case he will NOT get very many assists.

You guys need to figure out what you want him to be. Then hold him to that standard and criticize him.

But you can't have it both ways.

 

Steve getting turnovers rather then assists mean he still dominates the ball (obviously), he just isn't making good decisions. Unless all his turnovers are result of 24sec violations after Yao passes back which obviously isn't the case, he DESERVES all the criticizism. Nice try, but wrong.

 

Actually a lot of his TOs are from offensive fouls when he tries to barrel into the defender without any thought of passing until he's in the air.
Maybe steve should've been a running back, its more suitable to his mentality...

 

Nice try, but no. I'm not talking about stats, any idiot can look at turnovers and say that they are bad. I'm talking about what happens on the court

Steve gives the ball up early in the shot clock like people want, he becomes Kenny Smith, therefore his assist numbers are low.

Have you watched one of Van Gundy's sets? Either steve throws the entry pass and cuts baseline or he gives to JJ on the wing and stands at the three point line.

Kind of hard to get an assist when you do that. Do you want the ball in his hands? If you criticize his decisionmaking, then you want what I described above to happen. In which case you can't criticize low assists.

Pick one or the other, then go with it.

Note that I never said he didn't deserve criticism. Just not unintelligent criticsim.

 

Okay, then I just don't understand you..

You responded to Roxtxia saying that Steve getting few assist ALONG with high turnover in our losses, which meant you thought that was "unintelligent criticism". Well here's something, if you don't have the ball, you can't really get a turnover now can you. Yes, we all want Yao Ming to get the ball more which hasn't completely happend yet. Francis making dumb turnovers like what Severe Rockets Fan and many others have pointed out meant that he is still dominating the ball, and ofcourse, eliminating his chances of even getting an assist.

Yes, I watch JVG set, and would love to see what you describe happen more often (though I wish there was more cutting rather then standing around). However, that is only part of how we play, what you failed to mention is the pick and rolls that francis and mobley gets time and time again, which all have potential to yield an assist but has rarely happened. Bottom line, Francis just isn't a competent passer yet, if ever.

 

LOL!!!!

 

B. Barry would be great! Cat and Francis do not play well together. They do not compliment each others games. They are both SGs!

Barry would help Francis and vice versa.

 

All I'm saying is this.

Francis does not need to have a hundred assists to have a successful night with the way that we are supposed to play. If he does have a lot of assists, thre is a good chance that he is going ISO and driving down the lane and passing, precisely what everybody in this thread hates and whines about.

Criticize him for his turnovers if you like, but be consistent.

 

Well, the Sonics do have Ridnour, Barry, Allen, and Murray. Barry certainly would be available if we could offer them something they would want, but that something would not be Mobley or Francis since they already have Allen and Murray. They may be interested in Taylor since they lack post scoring.

 

And yet again...

Guys, all we need is a PURE PG to run stuff so that Steve will not have to fight his own personal nature every time he has a ball. It's simple:

Pick your favorite tradeable _pure_ PG

Trade Mobley for him.

Steve has more freedom, ball moves better, we win. Done.

My fav's for this trade: T.J. Ford, Van Exel, Eric Snow