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I have lost my faith in what Morey's doing

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. OremLK

    OremLK Member

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    BS, median outcome for this team is about 35 wins. We didn't lose 15 wins from the changes we made.
     
  2. Rocket_4_Life

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    The Rockets are only marginally worse than last years team as it's currently constructed. They will be competitive.
     
  3. moetherolla

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    I would have to disagree with only being marginally worse, but I think it is a good thing.

    IF Martin is traded, and the lineup that i've seen posted on here actually happens, Lin/Lamb/Parsons/Patterson/Asik

    Only 2 of those guys have been starters before, Parsons going into his second year and Lin with a limited stint in NY.
     
  4. ChievousFTFace

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    We dont have any idea as to how this team will perform. The only rotation player left that had significant minutes last year is Parsons. Martin and Patterson were limited by injury. We will have 3-4 rookies in our rotation this year. While I hope we are entertaining to watch, I don't think anybody can honestly put a median on number of wins.
     
  5. nbafever

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    I applaud DMorey for not being the fool who made it possible for Howard to go to the Lakers. Look, Howard was adamant that he was never going to sign long-term in HOU. We weren't willing to give up all our quality prospects for a rental.

    After that, to negotiate aggressively for Bynum means we agree to give Howard to the Lakers. I don't think Morey wanted that. The FO was willing to wait it out and not budge because no way they could have anticipated ORL would be willing to have a firesale.

    How else could you have bettered Morey's strategy?
     
  6. MadMax

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    Until I see the young guys play, there's no way I could guess at this. We traded Scola and our point guards are gone. Martin will likely be gone at the break. I don't know what to expect from Asik over longer minutes, though I expect he'll be a plus defender for sure, but offering little else.

    That's massive turnover with a lot of question marks....and heavy reliance on rookies.
     
  7. pippendagimp

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    imo the biggest question mark is where we will get post offense from......u might be able to win a quarter or 2 without any post up game at all, but it's hard to win even 1 game in the nba like that
     
  8. MadMax

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    certainly one of our 45 power forwards can score, right? ;)
     
  9. kaitanuva

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    So I guess Royce White's dribbling and passing abilities were just a hot streak, right? Nothing to get excited about here, guys. :rolleyes:
     
  10. hitman1900

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    I am excited about the young guys. Don't get me wrong. But let's be real here, they aren't going to start putting out results until at least their 2nd year.

    I just think they're not going to be killing the league right out of the gate, and, in fact, I think they're probably gonna get their asses whopped. And that's perfectly fine because that's the learning process. These guys aren't Lebron or Magic Johnson type talent where they're just gonna contribute at the get go.

    It's ridiculous to think we'd be competitive with this type of team RIGHT AS OF THIS MOMENT. If any other team had the roster we had, would you really take them seriously?
     
  11. kaitanuva

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    Well I think you underestimate this forum. Hardly anybody thinks we're going to win 40-50 games with this squad. We're just excited for the few great games the rookies really shine and show their talents. But we know realistically they're going to have crap showings as often, probably even more so, than those great games. And that's expected from rookies.
     
  12. gmoney411

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    You really should go look at the records of teams that have played as many young and inexperienced players as we will next year. Teams with much more promising players didn't break the 30 win mark. What about this roster makes you think it will be close to competitive next year?
     
  13. OremLK

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    Not playing as many young players as you think

    Lots of guys in their basketball primes who have already shown they can be solid starters in the NBA

    Lin - Proven solid starter, maybe more
    Martin - Proven above average starter
    Parsons - Proven solid starter, maybe more
    Patterson - Probable bench player, maybe starting caliber
    Asik -50/50 chance of being solid starter caliber

    Delfino - Starting caliber
    then you have a bunch of rookies but they are NBA ready rookies who can contribute immediately

    this team won't be that bad bro
     
  14. BONIERO1576

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    Hopefully they'll be entertaining but we want them to be bad, this is the strategy Morey is following. The next two seasons anybody that is not OKC, LA, or Miami is going to come within sniffing distance of a Championship. Might as well retool try to get a high lottery picks and wait out the retirement of Kobe, Gasol, Duncan.
     
  15. deshen

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    can't say you have a good judgement here.
     
  16. OremLK

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    Like 35 wins is such a stretch.

    This team was on a 42.23 win pace when they finished least season. The changes we made don't amount to losing 8+ wins.
     
  17. gmoney411

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    We are playing as many young guys as I think.Your proposed starting lineup has a total of one guy with more than 60 career starts and it happens to be the guy that is the most likely to get traded benched or injured. This team doesn't have enough experience to win consistently. Also not a one of the players you listed is in their prime
     
  18. OremLK

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    Prime in basketball is mid 20s. Most of those guys are in their primes.
     
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    Prime has a lot to do with experience. If those guys are the best basketball players they will ever be we are in serious trouble
     
  20. OremLK

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    So you think these guys just stopped playing basketball because they weren't playing NBA games? Give me a break. They were getting experience. That's part of why Lin was able to jump in last year and make such a big impact--he was already 23 with lots of college experience under his belt, not some raw teenager fresh out of HS.
     

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