Used to be where CD and Rudy T were good at this. An opposing player rakes the Rox over the coals, the Rox go out and get him (Glen Rice, Charles Barkley). But the value just isn't there. Trevor kills us in the playoffs and Morey and Adelman go after him in the offseason. So, do they admit a mistake, which is helping bring down the team a bit, or do they ride it out, not wanting to scare off future free agents with the appearance of We Promise We Promise---OOPS, he sucks, and wondering if Ariza will fit in better once he's the 3rd option on offense? (Which he shouldn't even be NOW---Aaron, Landry, Scola---let alone if Yao returns at full steam and we add an All Star caliber player).
Ariza currently drives me nuts, listing all of the reasons I dislike him at this point would be a frivolous relative to the length of this thread; however, I still don't think it was a bad move on Morey's part because with a guy like Daryl he is typically thinking long-term moves that will benefit the team. When the Rockets add another star (or near-star) wing player and have Yao return, he will be an effective piece of a championship team just as he was with the Lakers. Right now, giving him the minutes he plays and the shots he takes is about keeping him happy - RA and DM are letting him scratch those itches he's had in terms of an increased role. This season will almost certainly (or at least hopefully) be seen as a failure in Trevor's eyes, and will help him realize that he is a role player, nothing more and nothing less. This reality check of a season will, I think, subsequently temper any feelings of discontent he will have with reduced minutes or shots in the future. One thing I do want to get off my chest, though - has anyone else noticed how Ariza just gives up on plays on both the offensive and defensive end? Maybe it's because he came from that Jekyll and Hyde Lakers team from last year, maybe it's because he's frustrated, but he seriously just stops playing defense or refuses to pass to open players because he believes it's 'his turn' or something to take a shot. The attitude adjustment is going to be necessary going forward, otherwise, this is going to turn into a situation comparable to Tracy's, if not worse.
Hell yes. They're both in the hundreds and Gallinari is at 26. He's been playing great lately. Mad 3's.
The Scary Thing Is Now it's Becoming "MENTAL" too with Ariza" He's hestitating. He's even MORE unsure now. And worse still, opposing teams like the Bulls are figuring it out and BAITING him to shoot. So long as Ariza is in the starting and closing 5, I am legitimately worried. There's only so much that Landry, Lowry, Brooks, and Scola can compensate for. And honestly, not all of them are going to shoot for a high percentage consistently enough to offset how consistently awful Ariza's shooting has been. The steals - sure, those are good. But everything else just makes me CRinGE! And now I even sense Ariza cringing too after the first 9 or so bricks. I was hopeful that Ariza could deliver. But he's not even a shadow of a shell of a good player. I remember when he was drafted by the Knicks. He was supposed to be young and full of promise. But I'm starting to wonder whether this is a classic case where: "DUDE, YOU SHOULD HAVE FINISHED MORE THAN ONE YEAR IN COLLEGE!!!! Be it now, then, or the indefinite future, I think it's safe to say Ariza was and remains overrated. Who made him ultimately expendable on the Knicks? How's David Lee for an answer. bummedSAGE
Lets look at the indications of Arizas Failure. 1.He has shot more shots through 41 games than he did in 82 games last year. 2.Even while shooting more shots than he did last year he has less points scored so far. 3.He's shooting 8 percent less from the field than last year 4. Careful children close your eyes for this one. HE HAS SHOT MORE 3'S THIS SEASON THAN HE HAS IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER BEFORE COMING TO HOUSTON. 5.He has the same amount of steals per game as he did last year when he played 24 minutes a game. All Signs point to FAILURE
How is #5 a failure? Sure he's played fewer minutes last year, but the season is only about halfway through. Unless, of course, you meant the number of steals last year in the same amount of games played. Still, I hope Ariza is traded soon. He just isn't a good basketball player. And I think he has an attitude problem. I'm going to tell the neighbors.
I think since he has a championship he thinks he has the right to yell at the guys and question why they did what they did. I just wish someone would do the same to him after his countless errors.
...and the more we "showcase" Ariza, the more negative his trade value gets. Could we get a used condom for him at this point? It does make one wonder about this moneyball stuff. Was he really scouted at all? Trevor reminds me of the gangly, uncoordinated, oaf that I once was on the court. I don't hate him, but I sure don't understand how he got here.
ariza was a big time performer in the playoffs. i dont fault Morey for signing him. right now he's doing too much but he'll be our best role player with two stars.
There is an out though...Cleveland wanted him badly, so do a Trevor for Big Z trade, they get their man, and we get our cap space back. Heck toss in Dorsey to give them a youthful expiring big..... DD
Oh yeah. I'm sure they want him now. Averaging 37% from the field? That's... untouchable. And I don't mean the good kind, where a player has too much value to trade...
And again, this is why a trade should have happened sooner. All in hindsight though, but damn, Ariza sucks.
I think they are smart enough to see that he would fit differently on their team than he does on ours. Trevors problem is that he is just not a good 3pt shooter or able to beat people off the dribble. He needs a superstar wing to play off of. DD
At this point I would rather have signed no one than have signed Trevor. The guy is trash without Kobe/Gasol/Odom/Bynum to take attention off him. I'm starting to believe I could have hit 48% of my threes during the playoffs with all those guys playing with me. Please, trade this guy for anyone. I will take an expiring.
Before this season Trevor Ariza stats were. .470 FG% .299 3pt% 13.6% of his shots were 3pt shots. Now with the Rockets .378 FG% .303 3pt % 39.8% of his shots are 3pt shots. Ariza is actually shooting better here as a 3pt shooter albeit slightly...but here is where it gets interesting. Pre Rockets he was shooting: .497% from 2pt range In Houston he is shooting: .427% from 2pt range. It is fairly clear to me that he is just not that good of a fit in Rick Adelman's offense, he does not have the skills necessary to excel.....it seems he needs to be the 5th guy that no one pays attention to, to actually thrive an 8ppg scorer........ And I think we already had that in Shane....either you trade Shane, or you trade Trevor....and honestly, I would rather keep Shane for one more year and let him expire with Yao than be stuck with Trevor for 5 more seasons. DD
Everyone needs to stop talking bad about ariza, we all know he is one of the few that isn't going anywhere along with ou young core of landry Brooks and lowry. He just thinks he's the best player in our roster, which of course he isn't. But wait till we get a superstar, his percentages will increase and his shooting numbers will decrease because he'll realize in his head that he isn't the first option anymore. And that will make him just as dangerous as he was with the lakers. Just have faith in him after the season. And stop saying we should trade him cause he's not going anywhere.
he has to be the absolute worst offense player in the game. what was he 2-10 last night? i really get aggravated when he touches the ball because most of the time it ends in a horrible shot or a turnover. stick to defense trevor
