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I have grown to HATE TREVOR ARIZA

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by StonesRunIt, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. limitlessRox

    limitlessRox Member

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    No fan wants to hate players on the home team. And I agree, given time, probably the Rockets could have the best all around team. However, given Ariza's play since early in the season, he's been a disappointment. I don't think many people expected to be Tmac. But he hasn't even filled in the hole left by Artest...and it isn't a huge one.
    At this point, he can't just say "I'm in a shooting slump" because he's in passing slump, a dribbling slump, and a decision making slump.

    Perhaps if he played better, we could win more games or make others less tight.
     
  2. StonesRunIt

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    yea i never felt he was overly athletic, he was just young with timing in the passing lanes....
     
  3. rhino17

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    I said that from day 1

    I remember there was an entire thread a few months ago bashing me for saying that, but it is absolutely true.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    He just does not fit in this offense, we need triple threat players, and he is just not it...can't shoot, and can't dribble......

    He needs to play with a superstar that draws tons of attention because on the Rockets he is a waste of space out there.

    DD
     
  5. Dave_78

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    LOL...when I said "a few of us" I was specifically thinking of you. I wonder if all those folks think he is still such a super duper athlete after watching him trip over his own feet or fall down when someone sneezes on him.
     
  6. Dave_78

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    The guy is a mediocre spot up shooter who got hot at the right time. It didn't hurt that he was surrounded by All Stars or borderline All Stars at almost every position.

    I would tell people "I told you so" about him but the truth is that he is even worse than I ever imagined. The comparisons to Rafer are insane because Rafer could do everything but shoot well. Ariza doesn't do anything including shoot well on the offensive end.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    I hope the Rockets see something we don't because honestly he is a major dissapointment, and we are locked into him for 5 more years.

    How can a guy be 24, and not be able to dribble, or pass the ball on time, or hit open shots, or have a clue when he goes into the lane?

    I am serious, I have not seen a player who just looks as lost as him out on the floor, and he continually gets WAY too many minutes.

    I think Adelman could help Trevor and himself a lot by cutting him down significantly......and him getting upset at the rest of the Rockets who are carrying this stiff right now just smacks of immaturity.

    He plays hard, I will give you that....but so did Ryan Bowen....and at least he played within himself.

    Trevor is like the guy at the gym you hope you don't get stuck with that thinks he is WAY better than he really is.....every now and then he has a hot game.....but more often than not, he costs the team, big time.

    DD
     
  8. abc2007

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    DD, How did Budinger play tonight? I think he was even worse than Ariza. Actually, he was worse than Tmac in his first cameback game.
     
  9. Shaud

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    I don't hate him but goodness this is getting frustrating.

    And I'm tired of the excuse he needs to get used to this new role. It's not like he's a rookie.

    I have said before we would like him more if we had two superstars or just one superstar to open it up for him but I'm even having doubts about that because he is missing a ton of open shots.

    You can say he has to get used to this new role or whatever but there are no excuses for all of these missed wide open jumpers.
     
  10. StonesRunIt

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    hes soming off injury an a string of missed games.. you seriously making a comparison to someone who has nothing that someone can say that he does well?
     
  11. Asian Sensation

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    As frustrated as everyone is with Ariza myself definitely included..... The guy would and will look so much better when he moves down a spot on the depth chart. As is, he's trying to do too much and he's not playing within himself. If we ever acquire a legit go-to-guy who can be our first or second option and push Ariza to be our 4th or 5th option he'll be so much more efficient and valuable.

    To those that are saying Ariza is overpaid and or that Morey made a blunder.... you guys should all reconsider. This year for us was supposed to be a project/rebuild/uncompetitive/lottery year. The team has way over-exceeded expectations thus far and spoiled us fans once again who nit pick over the smallest things. We've done a great job of improvising thus far and key pieces will be added and improvements will continue to be made.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Nah, he looked ok, but he also did not try to do too much...got a rebound, went strong to the hole and missed a couple of looks.

    Nothing spectacular, nothing bad....honestly, I think he should have played more.

    Maybe they were being cautious...perhaps tomorrow night he gets it going.

    DD
     
  13. DaDakota

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    I agree with you about that Asian, but he is missing wide open 3s and with Yao, you have to knock those down.....

    And the most shocking thing to me is his lack of dribbling ability it is monumentally bad.

    I thought I had seen the worst dribbling by a wing ever in Luther Head....man Luther looked like Tiny Archibald compared to Trevor.

    Yuck.

    DD
     
  14. Air Langhi

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    Ariza owes his contract to kobe. He was getting him so many open shots.
     
  15. abc2007

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    Budinger played 9 minutes, it's more than Tmac's 7.5 minutes. He was 0-3 tonight.

    If Tmac played like this, I can imagine what you would say... ;)

     
  16. DaDakota

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    Budinger hustled......played hard, moved off the ball, and had the highest +/- of any Rocket tonight.

    If Tmac played like Budinger, I would not have wanted him sent home.

    DD
     
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    I keep hearing this defense that we need to wait to judge until Yao is back. The problem I have is this...How is Yao going to make Trevor a better shooter? How is Yao going to make Trevor a better ball handler? Theres no reason Ariza should be taking more than 8 shots a game....zero...ziltch...nada.
     
  18. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    that's unfair. Buds game is Totally different he's a off the ball shooter who comes off screens to hit shots and he's still a rookie.

    I hate DaDa's trashing of Trev but Bud has nothing to do with it.
     
  19. t_mac1

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    not really b/c of kobe. the lakers are just stacked, and ariza was always the 5th option when he was on the court. hell, technically, he was like hte 7-8th option b/c kobe was option 1-2, and gasol was #3.
     
  20. Asian Sensation

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    I agree he's no Ray allen of shooting by any means or Magic Johnson when it comes to ball handling but he'd be much more efficient and not be so exposed with the addition of Yao and hopefully a stud 2/3. We're going to Ariza as one of our main options offensively on a nightly basis and his skill-set (shooting, dribbling, creating etc) are not cut out for him to be a main option. This is a guy that's playing more minutes, has more responsibility and taking more shots than ever before.

    He will get better as he adjusts (takes time), the team adds pieces (takes time) and he's able to play within himself (can't really do that right now cause he's being asked to do too much).

    The people that "HATE" are "mad" or even "upset" with Ariza are the NAIVE fans that thought he'd be some kinda 20ppg scorer and turn into the next Orlando Mcgrady when we acquired him. To those naive fans... you only have yourselves to blame.
     

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