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I have grown to HATE TREVOR ARIZA

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by StonesRunIt, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. rhino17

    rhino17 Member

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    explain this

    1) How is a star SG gonna get here?

    2) What makes you think his shooting percentage will go up when this messiah arrives?
     
  2. DrNuegebauer

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    Probably the fact that over his career his % has been much better than it currently is :rolleyes:
     
  3. hitman1900

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    I wouldn't dislike Ariza so much right now if he didn't think and act like he was a star player.

    I blame Adelman and management for putting that idea in his head. You would think that Adelman's been around long enough to assess who has the ability and talent to be a star in this league. I mean, what in the scouting reports does it say about Ariza? "Unlimited potential and ability, be careful when defending"? Jeezus.....
     
  4. JeopardE

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    To be fair, I expect his efficiency to improve substantially if and when his usage rate is forced down by the introduction of a competent 2-guard into the starting lineup. He is completely incapable of performing this role they've placed him in, and he's not going to get better. I've personally advocated that Chase Budinger should be the one filling this role.

    But even with the lineup as it currently is, they've got to cut down his usage rate. It is just way too high. Those possessions he's wasting should be going to Brooks, Scola and Landry. Especially Brooks, who really needs to start asserting himself more.
     
  5. daernoth

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    He has been yelling at Brooks as if he had a right to be talking about turnovers. I wonder myself what they have been telling him. We need Chase to develop and take minutes away from him badly. Outside of us getting lucky and being able to acquire an allstar sg, Chase is our only hope.
     
  6. meh

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    If one doesn't get here(I'm including both SF and SG here), then the Rocket's biggest problem wouldn't be Ariza, it would be lacking talent.

    Said messiah would be taking all of Ariza's bad shots... and hopefully being a messiah, said player would be making a higher percentage of them. :)
     
  7. mjharleem22

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    i am still wondering how its so hard for mcgrady to crack the lineup adelman
     
  8. rhino17

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    Well I'm glad we have that covered :grin:

    but what about all those wide open shots he misses?
     
  9. hitman1900

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    I know, Adelman isn't very consistent about earning playing time, if that were the case, Ariza should've been benched awhile ago.
     
  10. meh

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    Well, you asked how he can shoot BETTER, not how he can shoot like Nash. I'd imagine if Ariza gets a much smaller offensive responsibility, he can simply work more on the shots he'll likely get in games and get better.

    I don't know. Maybe Adelman cares about things like defense, or playing team basketball. You know, small things that T-Mac has never given a damn about? I know Adelman's a bit crazy for thinking that scoring isn't the only thing in basketball. But hey, what can you do?
     
  11. Hball

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    Morey fell for ariza fluke playoff performance, you can never a trust player in a contract year ala sasha vuachic
     
  12. goodbug

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    Ariza is no Sasha, he's pretty good when he's left open, which is no longer the case for Sasha. The problem, the opposition doesn't double off him now and he's not open that much. He'll be fine playing along a star.

     
  13. davidxhz

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    Did you see the game? He had three consecutive Tos in the 4th quarter and if we got 1 out of three we would have won this game, I don't care about 7, but those 3 Tos are really costly.

    BTW, If you wants to play words you can, but you still have to remember, every loss is a team loss, every win is a team win! Why do people get different salaries, Why do players like Kobe gets appreciated more than other players on the Lakers? Because some players have more INFLUENCE on the game while others, not so much....

    There is a reason, why a lot of people are beginning to hate ariza.
     
  14. davidxhz

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    Really, I do remember seeing him turning the ball over, travels, bad pass......... A LOT

    You know why people are not saying lowry getting into the lane and turns it over too many times, cause those people who see every game know what is the truth
     
  15. joesr

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    I have nothing against that. And to the most part, I agree. I think he sucks at dribbling. He cant create. But to say he lost it for the team like a lot of people agreeing with this thread are just ridiculous. He needs to stay a slasher and spot up shooter.

    Just tired of these threads. I have grown to hate the ..............dislike........the op's ignorance of these type of threads.

    We have no go to player. I am sorry. Brooks isnt one. Not yet if its to come. Neither is Scola or Landry. You guys have blind favoritism if you think so.
     
  16. HPD

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    Shandon Anderson any1?
     
  17. rmoreno

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    i'm sorry but i feel that ariza disrupts the rhythm of the offense, he is not a star player and he can't create shots for himself. He is a good player who plays well when someone else creates shots for him.
     
  18. RoxBeliever

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    I agree I wish he could play better more consistently. I think it's his tentativeness on the dribble that's hurting him. He's overthinking. When he slows down, that's when the defense locks down on him. He should just commit to a course of action and do it quicker and more agressively.

    Last night's game, who was being consistent? AB was hurting, Lowry committed two mistakes, Landry fouled out. Scola's defense against the NO bigs was non-existent. We sank quickly and together, so no one could bail us out.

    Anyway, what I appreciate about Ariza is that last summer when the team was being gutted by Yao's injury and Artest left us, and really a lot of uncertainty was descending on the team, Ariza chose to sign with us, inspite of receiving offers from the Cavs and other teams. Why? he was asked. "Because I had given my word."

    When most everybody else was giving up hope on us, he chose to come here. That shows character. And while he knows he's struggling right now, I trust that he and the team around him will find a way to turn it around. All this is character-building and -defining. Cut him some slack! He has already started to rein in his outside shooting. I trust he'll turn the corner soon as he continues to work on his game.
     
  19. LScolaDominates

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    Ariza's struggling right now and is likely not cut out for the role he has played for the Rockets thus far. He does a lot of things that help the team win, though, and those things will continue to earn him court time from those who's opinions have weight in such matters.

    Sadly, as was the fate with "Skip" Alston, most fans (not fans of his, but fans of something else) will continue to overlook these "winning" qualities in Trevor, instead bearing closest scrutiny to the qualities that he was never expected (again, by important people) to bring to bear as a member of the Houston Rockets.
     
  20. MrButtocks

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    When's the last time someone played this poorly in a "developmental year" and had something good come out of it? He's not cut out for this role, plain and simple. We need a scoring two guard that can create for him. Too bad they don't come easily. And no, I'm not advocating Tmac.
     

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