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I have grown to HATE TREVOR ARIZA

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by StonesRunIt, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. 11Rox4Life3

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    See, that's the difference. This is the first time Landry has played like crap, especially in the 4th quarter. With Ariza, this is a reoccurring theme.
     
  2. LCII

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    Landry brings it night in and night out though. This is probably the first bad 4th quarter he's had all year.He's been INCREDIBLY clutch this season. Landry get's some leeway because of how good he has been.

    On the same flip of the coin, Ariza is on a short leash because of how consistently BAD he's been this season.
     
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  3. choujie

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    How is that CORRECT?

    A career 45% shooter as SF is good enough. Right now he's shooting 37%, so don't say he's shooting like that in his career. Not even close. That difference is bigger than AB's and Rafer's.

    It doesn't matter how many games he started for Lakers, but as a role player, he played very well for them. His steals were huge in playoff series against Denver.

    I stand correct, Ariza is good enough for a MLE role player, but not good enough for a star player.
     
  4. PeppermintCandy

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    So..that's why Ariza should fall on the sword for this loss? That's why people are talking about Ariza's turnovers only? That makes no sense.
     
  5. rockets934life

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    This is an excellent point, Trevor is playing A LOT of minutes for someone who hasn't come close to those numbers in the past. I would think when Chase returns he will need to eat up some of those minutes and that should benefit Trevor, Chase and the squad.
     
  6. davidxhz

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    Team ball requires players to play within their abilities and complement each other, (just like lowry and brooks) One can shoot, the other takes it to the basket and gets others involved. Ariza is doing things HE IS NOT ABLE TO DO

    Ariza is hurting us more than helping and has lost his only ability-shoot, opposing team are just leaving him wide open and daring him to shoot......
     
  7. choujie

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    Right, he is indecisive because he is not fit for the star role to make decisions for the team. He needs somebody to make decision for him.

    Too bad Rockets don't have enough decision makers right now.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I said I stand corrected, which means, you were right and I was wrong.

    ;)

    DD
     
  9. Carr Bombed

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    What he said, because I've been saying the same thing all year.

    Ariza is supposed to be Battier's future replacement.......NOT TMAC'S.

    We have NO SHOOTING GUARD ON THIS TEAM and that's what we desperately need.
     
  10. choujie

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    I forgot to say something. Reduce his minutes is not a bad idea, as long as RA can find somebody play effectively on the court.
     
  11. SageHare6

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    I can only imagine at this point, that there can only be good from ADDITION through SUBTRACTION of Trevor's minutes.

    Ariza gets less minutes
    + CBud and Co. get more
    = Ariza gets more productive
    = TEAM FG% also improves
    = TEAM continues success and then some

    theSAGE
     
  12. v3.0

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    somebody quote this before he changes it

    oops I just did ;)
     
  13. leebigez

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    I don't think travor ever thought about the strength he would need to play this many minutes and shoot this many shots. Its one thing to play 30 mins with kobe,gasol,and bynum and its another to do it as a main option. I tell people this all the time when they get into its easier to score or be effecient on a poor team. Thats straiight bs because when you have a team full of highend players, the defensive focus is different. Also, trevor will if he hasn't already hit the wall. he's never played this many minutes in his pro career. The strength it takes night in and night out is something alot of people don't understand. He's still learnign and hopefully this summer he really works on getting stronger. In fact alot of guys i know that played lifted weights during the season to maintain their strength. Thats really helps during the grueling nba season.
     
  14. BleedsRocketRed

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    Ariza TS% is amongst the lowest in the league for players who qualify at a terrible 47.75%. That is just atrocious for any player, more-less one who averages over 30 mpg.

    Landry on the other hand, is number 11 at 64.1 TS%

    And for additional comparison sakes, even Lurther Head's famous playoff numbers back when he had the - 8.24 PER had a TS of 51.6 %

    Oh and just for those who dont know...

    TS% True Shooting Percentage calculates what a player’s shooting percentage would be if we accounted for free throws and 3-pointers. True Shooting Percentage = (Total points x 50) divided by [(FGA + (FTA x 0.44)]
     
  15. zilches

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    I don't HATE Trevor personally. I just hate seeing him on the court with the Rockets. Yes, it is that bad.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I don't hate him either, just want the Rockets to play to his strengths and stop exposing him by asking him to do too much.

    There is a point where you can add a little bit to your game, but they are asking Trevor to take a MASSIVE leap and he is not skilled enough to do that.

    Heck, the man can't even dribble well....it is like a tall lanky Luther Head out there.

    DD
     
  17. StonesRunIt

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    Luther shot better and dribbled a bit better.
     
  18. Parlett316

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    If Luther didn't do a disappearing act in the playoffs he would still be here.
     
  19. PeppermintCandy

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    I don't think Landry played like crap. The Hornets did a great job neutralizing him, especially in the second half.

    The Rockets were without their main scorer down the stretch and floundered. It is what it is. Why the need to find a person to blame for this?
     
  20. EbolaScola

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    This Ariza experiment needs to end soon. Adelman needs to take away his green light and realize that he's not the guy we need him to be. He may be a starter one day, but he's not helping himself or the team right now by forcing the issue.
     

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