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I have grown to HATE TREVOR ARIZA

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by StonesRunIt, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. el_locoteee

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    He hates the basketball player, no the person.

    You don't need to know the person to hate the player.
     
  2. caowenyu

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    really hate him. commit the same fault over and over again.
     
  3. IndoRockets

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    ahh, come on man..I don't think a hate thread is needed for one of our players! I agree he is inconsistent, but from here, all I see is Ariza won't get enough credit in Rockets win, and will be the scapegoat if rockets lose.

    Some of the critics are right, but it doesn't mean the other players don' have their fault too in one of the rockets lost.

    Let's continue to root for him as long he is a rockets player, he have a long contract with us
     
  4. cuddie

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    Seems like Adelman wants Ariza to be like McGrady. Difference is, Ariza has nowhere near the natural ability McGrady had. There are some things you can't teach.
     
  5. RedRedemption

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    Maybe Ariza should just take open shots and that'll be that.
    Stop trying to create, let others create for you.
     
  6. BleedsRocketRed

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    I am tired of Ariza...At what point is it enough?

    Sure it may be a kneejerk reaction, and yeah I know there were a ton of posts already...

    But enough with Ariza. I just dont understand why the offense runs through him. Why does Ariza need to bring up the ball? Or create for others? He is terrible at it, and enough with it already. I can go on and on...

    Ugh, Words just cant describe how infuriated I am with him and the entire situation. I dont want him on this team, I want him gone but I know we are stuck with him for the next few years. Yeah I know, I am just an angry fan, but I have been watching the NBA for a couple decades now and I have an understanding for what is good and bad for a team. Ariza may be a great guy, but as a Rocket, as a player on this team... He is a disaster.

    Yeah, he's young, yeah he's a "prospect" but this is just sickening. I or nobody else should DREAD the second that he touches the ball. That isn't an indication of a good player. Sure who are we to judge talent, but seriously it does not take a rocket scientist to see that is isnt going to work. He's has had enough time to "fit" in and "get in the groove". It isn't working.

    He is what he is. He was a glorified role player who got his 15 minutes of fame riding the coat tails of Kobe Bryant. And now we are stuck with him.

    I am just so angry, not only because of this game but it's just been building and building. I have tried to give him a chance, but I just cant take it anymore. 4 our of the last 6 plays down the stretch in the Hornets game he has made the most idiotic plays ever and just gave the Hornets opportunity after opportunity to come back. These are not just turnovers, just STUPID plays and decision making.

    And we lose. This is just going to turn out as one of the biggest Rocket busts ever. As a fan of the Rockets and a fan of the game, I just hate watching such a low quality product. At this point I would take Mike James over him...

    Flame shield up (for the people in denial)

    /Rant and Boom goes the dynamite!
     
  7. Possum

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    You mean flame sheild up for people that have a clue. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Yak

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    Should have read:

    Flame shield up (for the people that understand basketball).
     
  9. Chopped

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    someone get the man some better basketball dvds..
     
  10. BleedsRocketRed

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    A clue? A clue for what? Please explain this one...
     
  11. vcchlw

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    You summed it up nicely.
     
  12. SageHare6

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    Deserves reposting.

    Describes my sentiments to a T. It's unfortunate, b/c I really REALLY wanted to like Ariza and believe he could step into some big shoes and provide solid production. Instead, we're 34 games or so into the season, Ariza misses a game or two, and I'm not convinced, for all the minutes we've blessed him with, that he was that GREAT STEAL that was originally believed.

    The shooting is one thing, but the defense is, imho been average at best. The guy's a slasher on offense but his lateral mobility to cover opposing drivers is just limited at best. And frankly, I feel like he's getting exposed, even by the mediocre teams.

    I'm at a point where I'd be happier if RA would reshuffle the lineup to try other formations without Ariza. 38, 39, 40 minutes of Ariza is just overkill. And it's not like he starts off hot and cools off later. It's like some days he has it, some days not, but more often that not, it's NOT.

    :( :( :(

    sadSAGE
     
  13. RV6

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    i dont like at all either..BUT, unlike someone like Artest, who had been the man on other teams and had years of experience in that situation, Ariza is new to this. Now i'm not saying with experience he'll develop into the go to guy aka superstar or something similar, but i do think with experience he'll become more efficient and settle into a certain style of play that enables him to be a tayshaun prince type, so about 15-16 ppg. Right now without yao or a tmac replacement he's getting too many touches and handling the ball too much.

    As long as this isnt the case going into next year i think we just have to suck it up for now.
     
  14. Mr. Space City

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    we need a shooting guard.

    all you dues asking we trade for forwards need to wake up and see we need a shooting guard.

    i don't HATE ariza but i HATE him playing at the shooting guard position.

    please andre iguodala, come to houston
     
  15. Yak

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    The thing is, I or someone else who understands the situation could type a long, precise, analytical post that explains why Ariza is having trouble, when it's going to be fixed, when he'll start to learn, and when we can be happy we picked him up...

    but only about 6 people would read it.

    So why bother? I choose to laugh at the hate and generally ignore it.
     
  16. BleedsRocketRed

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    See I agree, but I dont understand why Ariza has to be "the man" though. Why does the offense have to run through him? It isnt his role, he isnt a facilitator, he isnt anyone who can create anything. Yet time and time again he always has to do it. I dont know if its coaching, or what but seriously...

    Is it sad that its gotten to the point where I would rather have Chuck Hayes bring up the ball instead?
     
  17. RyanB

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    i've never made such mistakes while playing in the playground with my friends
    Ariza really needs to stop this s.....
    and MOREY we NEED A CLUTCH PLAYAAAAAAAAAA
     
  18. DaDakota

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    It is not knee jerk...the guy is a fish out of water.

    He can't dribble...he does it too high and is easily stripped.

    He can't pass ...he is half a second late on nearly all his passes, and many are below the knees when they arive.

    He can't shoot off the dribble - just pathetic on the move

    His defense is overated - he doesn't stay with his man, he gets those steals by reaching etc.

    Seriously, the guy is just not that great of a basketball player, he is a 24 year old taller, lankier, Shandon Anderson.

    Unless he learns WHO HE IS, on the basketball court and plays WITHIN HIS CAPABILITIES.....he would be better off traded with Tmac for Iggy etc.

    He is not smart enough to be Shane's replacement....not even close.

    Hurry back Chase Budinger, we need more of him....and a TON TON TON less of Trevor.

    ugh.

    DD
     
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  19. SageHare6

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    Yeah - and here's the problem imho.

    Ariza is a slasher and 3 point shooter - more specifically, a SPOT up 3 point shooter. In this vein he's like Battier, but can slash drive from time to time. But unlike Battier, Ariza's D is mediocre at best. And as a driver/penetrator, he's also mediocre at best.

    While I'm not in the "LETS BRING BACK MCGRADY" camp, what is clear imho is that Ariza is not your long 2, pull up 2, or deep 3 sort of perimeter player - one who has enough consistency to warrant major attention like T-Mac. He also doesn't have the length (or at least doesn't demonstrate it) to make that one swing of the ball and beat his opponent with the first step/first dribble like T-Mac. And defensively, while he has the length, he doesn't seem to have the lateral quickness to get where he needs to get in front the defender. But rather, he's prone to reaching.

    Passing.. won't even address passing.

    Could he be better/more effective if we had a stronger center and post up game? Possibly. But after 34 games, I'm just not so sure anymore that he can ever be regarded as among the top decile of players let alone the truly elite.

    :confused:

    bummedbylossSAGE
     
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  20. Possum

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    Really whats the point? There are to many people on this board that think scoring is all basketball is about. To many people that just dont get what Ariza was brought here for. They cant understand the position this team is in right now.
     

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