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I have grown to hate Aledmys Diaz

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, Mar 29, 2019.

  1. juicystream

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    Not sure what I tried. Diaz isn't better than Marwin, but he is cheaper.
     
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  2. Snake Diggit

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    You tried to say Marwin is better than Diaz because he has the same fWAR and higher rWAR, failing to recognize that those stats are cumulative, so it makes zero sense to surmise that fWAR alone is any kind of comparative stat for 2 players with a large difference in plate appearances.
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Wow, dude.
     
  4. Tomstro

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    Why is Correa so dead set on leaving the Astros?
     
  5. CheezeyBoy22

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    Do we actually know that? Has he said it?
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    No.
     
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  7. Tomstro

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    Fair point.

    For now
     
  8. CheezeyBoy22

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    I know it's hard not to think about the future and especially after winning the world series in 2017 but I'm just solely focused on 2019. Correa seems to be doing the same as well.
     
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  9. juicystream

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    No, I didn't. I just asked if you knew who had the higher WAR on BR and that they had the same on Fangraphs. I personally wouldn't judge any player based on 6 weeks into a season vs another player to who is the better player. If I did that, I'd think Jorge Polanco is better than Carlos Correa or Mike Minor is better than Gerrit Cole. If anything, I really just wanted to post about Marwin because he's turned his season around the last couple of weeks.

    But I will judge you for saying Diaz is a better defender than Marwin at SS when Diaz has cost his teams 23 runs at SS.

    I think pretty much all of us agree that acquiring Diaz was the right choice over paying Marwin.
     
  10. Snake Diggit

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    He’s given no indication he’s “dead set” on leaving the stros. He has given strong indication that he wants to test free agency, which is easy to take as a sign that he’s gone. But Bregman and Verlander both made similar comments, then ended up signing extensions.

    Correa has always been very mature in his approach to the business side of the sport. It’s easy to infer from his comments and attitude that he thinks he belongs as the biggest star in the biggest contract in a bigger market. But I think that may be a hasty judgement.

    If I had to make a prediction I would guess Correa will he gone in free agency (although I wouldn’t be shocked at all if he extended/resigned), but that’s due to a variety of factors. I don’t think Correa will age well, and I think the front office agrees. I see Correa as closer to Tulowitzki than ARod. Also, the presence of Bregman means they have another superstar SS ready to step in (finding/developing a good 3B is easier than SS). I do think they will have the money with Verlander coming off the books, assuming they don’t extend Springer.
     
  11. jim1961

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    I started to try and compare Marwin and Diaz based on non-cumulative stats. What I found was both players are rather streaky. But in general, it seemed Marwin is the better defender and has the better arm where Diaz has a slightly better career OPS.

    But if we are arguing who is the better value in 2019, I agree Diaz is the clear winner to this point.
     
  12. Joe Joe

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    Tulowitzki put up 17 fWAR over years that Correa will be a free agent. Conservatively without doing inflation calculations, that's at least worth $170 million.
     
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    Definitely a thread that didn't age well. A good reminder to wait a few weeks before judging players and creating "I've grown to hate" threads. He's been far more productive than Marwin this year at a fraction of the cost.
     
  14. msn

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    I've grown to hate hater threads.
     
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  16. Tomstro

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    Diaz is a damn good player.
     
  17. Snake Diggit

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    If Correa was willing to sign a 6 yr $170M extension, I assume it would already be done.
     
  18. juicystream

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    Would be a reasonable deal, but what Correa sees (and hard to blame him):

    1) The market has really gone down for guys over 30
    2) Machado & Harper both over $300M reaching FA at a young age.
     
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    Diaz is THE MAN!
     
  20. Joe Joe

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    He looks like a guy that might breakout. Lots of hard hits, but doesn't elevate many.
     
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