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I have grown tired of Jose Abreu

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Underrated23, May 7, 2023.

  1. Tomstro

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    Can’t.

    he just has to find his groove
     
  2. Surfguy

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    We ordered Armani and got JC Penny.
     
  3. Snake Diggit

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    He hit a hall 110 mph yesterday. He may be declining but there has got to be a way he can get back to at least being a league average hitter. Still would be one of the top 10 worst contracts in baseball but at least he’d be playable. At what he’s done so far this season we are just suffering until it becomes palatable to release him mid 2024.
     
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  4. Snake Diggit

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    Ordered Armani and got Goodwill.
     
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  5. J.R.

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    https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/jose-abreu-547989?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb

    He…stinks.

    Batting him fourth is a fireable offense. He shouldn’t even be starting. (But instead, we’re gonna double down. “Well we paid him, so we gotta continue to start him!” … What did Dusty say today, “Gotta continue to start and play him to get him going!”)

    “We've got to get Abreu going, and the only way to get going is to play. This guy, for years has played almost every day. We've just got to get him going.”

    If I set the O/U at 5.5 HRs, taking the O/U? I’m taking the under.

    One guy, DFA’d this week. The other, batting fourth.
    And checking in with an old friend

    “It is quite likely, however, that the Astros, whether Jim Crane or his factotums or Reggie Jackson or whoever is making these decisions, believe they got an elite player in José Abreu.” … “The Astros aren’t buying Abreu’s 2022 performance. They’re buying his 2023-2025 performances, and those are extremely likely to be worse, starting in year one and declining sharply from there. For one thing, he’ll play at 36 this year, and his production outside of 2022 hasn’t been elite for some time; from 2018-21, he had just a .340 OBP, .336 if you take out the intentional walks.” … “In 2022, his production changed, and it’s something we’ve seen before. He lost some bat speed and started to struggle on four-seamers for the first time in his MLB career. His contact quality went down on four-seamers, and the harder the pitch, the more likely he was to whiff. He actually hit the fewest homers of any season since he first signed with the White Sox a decade ago, just 15, fewer than he hit in the 60-game 2020 season. He put the ball on the ground more and went the other way a lot more, which, in an older player, is often a sign that he can no longer get around on pitches he used to pull or hit back up the middle.”
     
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  6. Big Uns

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    And a manager who keeps it just the way it is. While our catcher pounds throws in. The dirt and is about to be 30 points under the mendoza line.
     
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  7. Hank McDowell

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    He should be playing every day in the minors somewhere until he shows something. I know that won't ever happen, but batting him cleanup is absolute insanity.
     
  8. The Real Shady

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    I'm done, dude has to get dropped to the bottom of the order. Maldonado has a higher OPS than Abreu. Keep him at the bottom of the order and hope he figures it out. You're married to him for 3 years. If he's still swinging like a poor mans Adam Everett by the trade deadline make a move Brown.
     
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  9. Redfish81

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    All of you are looking at it the wrong way. Imagine what a feat it will be to win the World Series with a cleanup hitter with a .532 OPS. The rest of baseball just can't handle the Astros way.
     
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  10. RKREBORN

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    Dana Brown giving fraud vibes
     
  11. tehG l i d e

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    Yordan and Tucker back to back went well and won them the game against the Cubs. I'm certain Abreu hits into a double play in that situation and ends the game instead of Tucker walking it off. What triggered Dusty to go back? Did he think Altuve coming back would spark something in Abreu?
     
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  12. tehG l i d e

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    Dana can only do so much. He didn't sign Abreu, Bagwell did. He's not going to order Dusty what to do when he's the new guy in town. Dusty went around Click's back to Crane when he was feeling managed and pressured. It's probably part of the reason Click got fired.
     
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  13. Underrated23

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    I kinda hate bagwell now only for this signing. Can he participate in load management?He must have drunk pictures of Dusty.
     
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  14. RKREBORN

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    Maybe Dusty keeps playing Abreu hoping he gets injured?




    ;)
     
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  15. Tuckmose

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    Diaz at first and Lee/Maldy catching might give you better results than Abreu.
     
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  16. Stephen66

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    It's only our good players that get hurt.
     
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  17. BlindHog

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    His place in the line up is not his fault.
     
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  18. Tomstro

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    Abreu should bat 7th or 8th until he works out of this. Play him everyday but bat him in the bottom 3rd of the order.
     
  19. BlindHog

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    At least for now he belongs on the bench. Play him when a game is put away one way or another. If Dusty b****es put him on the FHA program.
     
  20. sealclubber1016

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    There was no damn reason for Dusty to move him back in front of Tucker.

    I'm fine with him playing, him separating our 2 best hitters right now is absurd.
     
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