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I hate you Stone!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Jun 25, 2024.

  1. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    Am I supposed to be impressed that Morey was able to "lure" PG13 by paying him way more than anyone else was willing to pay? To quote Succession, "Congrats on saying the biggest number."

    We'll see if the PG13 experiment works. I have my significant doubts. If it does, he deserves all the credit. He absolutely created the circumstances for this signing.
     
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  2. spankz141

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    Stone is an ok GM...
    Stone has always taken the safe route...Jalen at #2, Jabari at #3 and Amen at #4...all were projected at those spots or earlier. Cam and Tari were low risk/high reward picks. The biggest surprise/shocking move was trading two picks for Sengun, which has turned out well.

    Free Agent wise...we had the most cap space last year and got the FAs that were willing to leave or not re-signed by their original teams...FVV and Brooks...safe moves (most of us would agree...Brooks is overpaid).

    Nothing wrong with taking the safe route...but if this continues...it will be a carousel of Mediocre.
     
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    regrets if you felt that was DM the GM rules riposte. It was merely to point out the fact he gets’m yet they don’t get him a Ring!
     
  4. shakes05

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    agree with you! Look at what Morey just did with Philly...created a new Big 3 after moving Harden.
    That's what I've been saying, thank you! Our roster is mediocre and now we traded the Nets pick we're living on a prayer that the Suns will trade one of their core stars to us because of the 2nd apron tax implications.
     
  5. peleincubus

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    I don’t want to hate. But I would a lot of money that you could not find a more inaccurate post in this entire thread. Sheesh
     
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    I don’t get this take at all. While I don’t believe we have a championship roster at the moment, I do believe we have a good roster at worst. No one on our roster is currently a superstar but we do have several players trending towards an All-Star level.

    I’d take it one step further and say there might be only 10-15 teams that wouldn’t do a complete roster swap right now and I’m not including future picks in the equation. I’ve bolded the no brainers:

    Celtics
    Mavericks
    Pacers
    Knicks
    Twolves
    Cavs
    Bucks
    Thunder
    Nuggets
    Spurs

    Magic
    Suns
    Pelicans
    Sixers
     
  7. roslolian

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    So you want us to reach and get guys nobody heard off using the top 4 picks? Getting guys projected earlier with later picks is now a bad move we should be reaching and getting guys projected later? Cuz it worked when Bulls drafted Patrick Williams or GSW picked Wiseman 2 right? Stone shouldnt pick Reed Sheppard at 3 cuz that is a safe pick, he should go ham and get Trey Wiseman cuz that would be taking a risk.

    This is an ongoing trend people who think Stone has done a poor job or has made a mediocre roster have zero clue. Dunning Kruger in full effect.
     
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  8. kingkingston

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    lol how about now? Some fans just can't look ahead
     
  9. Hemingway

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    Thunder, nuggets, Celtics, cavs are probably the only slam dunks. Maybe Dallas because of Luka and santonio because of Wemby. The rest would be slam dunks the other way
     
  10. Williamson

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    This is a fun bump. Lots of knee jerks looking like they like checkers while Stone was playing chess. I think the 2025 Brooklyn pick and the 2025 Suns pick are 3 picks apart right now. And we have 3 more after this year.

    Also lots of fun talk about how Stone makes the safe moves (which is nuts because EVERYBODY thought he was crazy for taking the Brooklyn package for Harden in the first place, then they thought he was nuts again for trading two of those picks back to Brooklyn for four Suns picks and that's without getting into gambles on Sengun, being willing to bet big on Fred and Dillon, etc). Now we are about halfway through the season sitting pretty as the #2 seed in the West and the #4 seed in the league. And none of our best players are older than 22 years old.

    Please defend yourselves. I'll go make popcorn.
     
  11. Francis3422

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    I’ve definitely come around on it.

    I still don’t know how much Brooklyn would’ve put into or have been able to improve the roster around Bridges. The Phoenix picks have great value, but what would they realistically have been able to pull?

    I still do this day. Think they would’ve made the bridges trade to New York just as a straight swap.

    So basically, our odds for Cooper Flagg (IMO) would have been better and the 2026 pick probably also wouldve been high lotto.

    But having a bunch of good assets pushed farther into the future, has its value as well.
     
  12. roslolian

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    Wow this is a crazy take lol
     
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    Look at how much Pistons improved. Its easy to not tank in the EC. In fact Nets were like 0.500 before they started trading everyone. Ben Simmons contract expires this year so why would 2026 be a high lotto? They can sign good players after this season.
     
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    I was one of the few who liked the Brooklyn trade and the trade for the PHX picks.

    Don't forget the Rockets still own swap rights with the Nets for the 2027 pick.

    They get 2 years to rebuild ..... It took the Rockets picking 2,3,4,3.
     
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    Damn couldn’t have been more right if I tried.
     
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    Some people just had mad bias for Morey and against Fertita and Stone. Because Fertita is the one who hired Stone some posters here immediately think anything Stone does is wrong.
     
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    4D chess? We're ready to win now...er, I really expect us to be serious starting next season. Bringing in another top tier player when we already have Cam and Reed is overkill.
     
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    Idk what this is about but i hated the trade at the time, it looks ok now because the nets got a really good coach. Still think the process was poor and stone didn't get enough considering how much leverage he had, but it seems there's a decent chance his poor process lucks out.
     
  19. Roomba

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    Irrespective of Stone's performance, I've come to the conclusion that Morey is a hugely overrated GM and a enormous douche. He was good with us, not great, and while he was the architect of our Harden years, he was also the architect of our demise (though his hand may have been forced with the Westbrook trade). And anecdotes about how he behaves and how he treats people have not endeared me to the man post-Rockets.

    Either way, I'm reminded of James Harden's iconic quote: "Daryl Morey is a liar, and I will never play for an organization that he is a part of."

    How badly do you have to **** up a relationship for it to end up like that?
     
  20. rocketchamp

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    Where are these people now? Alot of the idiots crapping on Rafael Stone from the time he started are nowhere to be found. How wrong could you be lol
     

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