The problem is that Moochie is a career backup & his best year's average was 4.9apg, while playing 27.4mpg. If you discount this year's numbers, Tinsley averaged 8.1/7.5 apg in his first two years. Tinsley also had a 23 assist game his rookie year. I realize that was a fluke, but I doubt Moochie has ever, even come close to that. I agree that his shooting could be a concern for most teams, but most teams don't have Francis & Yao. Tinsley has shown that he's got good vision on the court & can find the open man where he's most comfortable. He also, while not significantly, did improve his shooting percentages from his 1st to his 2nd year. A good PG can make an average shooter look really good. Francis is no average shooter. Imagine if he didn't have to worry about anything but finding his spot on the floor & catching the wide open pass from Tinsley. I can envision Francis leading the league in scoring someday (30ppg?) & Yao averaging over 20ppg with the right PG. As far as his defense is concerned, he averaged 1.73/1.71 steals per game in his first two years. He's had 6 steals in a game twice & blocked 5 shots once. I know these numbers are the exception, but they might give a hint of what he's capable of doing. I also agree that Ward would be a nice addition, but he's never averaged more than 5.7apg in his career & he's 33 years old. However, his $6 million expiring contract would be very enticing. The problem is, the only real assets that are available are Mobley/Cato. NY has Houston & I can't see them needing Mobley. Since Mutombo has stepped up, they might not be interested in acquiring Cato anymore either, but you never know.
Hey Thumbs, Thanks for the kind words. I cracked up over the "MacToddie" reference in MacBeth's recent thread. I've been laying low lately, because I've gotten really tired of all the trade bashing & bashing in general that seems to run rampant through this board. People just don't seem to have much respect for one another anymore. Anyway, back to your response. I'm not as concerned with the small backcourt as you are, especially since we have Yao/Cato/Jackson protecting the middle. As I pointed out in my response to Relativist, Tinsley appears to bring some defensive skills with him. Add to that, the fact that JVG has our boys playing exceptional team defense & I don't think we have too much to worry about.
After the post, I looked at Tinsley's stats more closely. He is 6-3 whereas I was thinking 6-0. Therefore, we wouldn't have the liabilities that I first suspected. As it turns out Frank Jones is only 6-2 and also is a PG where I was thinking he was a SG. Since the premise of the thread was to trade Amaechi, I looked for teams that might actually need him -- Orlando and now (stretching) Boston. Swapping Amaechi for Pollard would not be something I would think Indiana would even consider -- but I surely would. As I said earlier, acquring Reece Gaines or Jiri Welsch would be a step forward because they seem "coachable." Anyway, your trade proposals are always fun, and you think them through, unlike most on the board. I still think Clutch should swap the "New Arena" topic for a "Trade Proposal" topic. Also, I concur on the bashing frenzy. Good to see you back.
Great, so what we're saying is that no one in the whole league could get use from Meech. Crap. I hope it's not really that bad.
Something is wrong with Tinsley. ESPN NBA Fastbreak had a piece about the Pacers having point guard problems. They were saying the team's distributors were too fragmented. Artest is leading the team with 3.6 assists a game. If Tinsley isn't being used, then he must be really bad. Carlisle is no dummy. Something is wrong with this guy's play on the court.
Carlisle is no dummy, but he has a habit of angering some players so much they don't want to play for him. Could this be the case? If so, perhaps we could swap Tinsley and filler for Norris or Amaechi. (I dream, I dream, I dream).
After today's Cleveland and Boston's trade... it leaves Boston light at the 5 since they shipped Battie, and Raef is out for the year. Could Beantown's green machine use a Meech?
These guys play basketball for a living. The coach is the boss and anybody with a decent attitude would do one of two things: Bust their a$$ playing to increase their trade value or play hard to get back on the coaches good side. Any attitude displayed that causes you to play like crap just shows a lack of character IMHO.
