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I hate how this team competes

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Dec 29, 2008.

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  1. Pringles

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    The coach's job isn't to stress the importance of competing night in and night out.

    That should already be in the players' mind. The contracts are there so they can compete 82 games plus the playoffs. Work is work. I don't need a strict teacher to study. I don't need a strict boss to work. There is no reason to need a strict coach.

    If we weren't so talented paper wise... the best thing would be to trade and start over... like Boston.
     
  2. Rule0001

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    True, but I still think you can argue that JVG would have gotten more out of this team than Adelman has so far. Granted, who are we to argue with a players coach getting results, Rudy T did it. Yet, Adelman is far far away from Rudy T as a players coach that gets results.

    JVG's style of ball wasn't popular, but man was the team disciplined like no other in the league. I will say this, we don't have true leaders on this team. Tracy isn't the solution. Hell, the guy has to get called in the "principals office" like a little kid just so someone can tell him that we actually need him to stop being a walking vagina. Yao isn't the solution as a leader either, the gentle giant approach doesn't work when leading a team. We need a killer. Perhaps we can lend the services of this man...

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  3. DudeWah

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    Sorry, I wasn't disagreeing with you, just adding on to your ponts :D
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    Exactly, Aaron plays terrific with T-Mac, because of the fact that teams have to respect T-Mac so much that it gives Brooks tremendous room to operate.
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    The problem with Barry is, he doesn't get constantly double teamed, like McGrady does, so it creates less chances for Brooks. I like the chances of Brooks, a 40 something % shooter converting on open shots that McGrady creates, as opposed to Rafer's 36% chance at making an open shot. This also increases the effectiveness of Brooks' driving. Not saying that Brooks isn't capable by himself, but being on the court with McGrady is the most effective way of playing Brooks, because they compliment one another so well. Those seven games proved that pretty well
     
  4. ibm

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    man i was distressed already after the loss, and you posted this terrible pic to scare me at midnight...
     
  5. Northside Storm

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    I don't understand.

    Supposedly the Rockets are full of character, hustling guys (Chuck Wagon, Batman, Coca Scola, Mandry) and guys with huge hearts and wills (A-test) as well as 7'6 big men known for working extremely hard (Yaoza) and um...6'8 guys who are really talented (Tmac 2002-2007?)...how can this team, of all teams, fail to compete on a regular basis.

    i just dont understand
     
  6. A_3PO

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    Yao and Tracy are wimpsters and so is the coach. Yao is as dedicated off the court as anyone. But there is a difference between off-court dedication to improvement and on-the-court toughness (both mental and physical). Tracy is talented but he's really a sissified milktoast. Adelman has a bunch of wins over his long coaching career but he isn't the right guy to bust this group of players into competing hard every game. I'm not sure the players have the proper respect for him (which would be Adelman's fault).

    This team needs a strong alpha dog to kick everyone in the pants. Artest is not that guy either because he's too much of a Froot Loop.
     
  7. the_hustler

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    Ron is the only guy who shows some heart in this team.. "losing with dignity" is what ron said after the cleveland game.. that just shows how hard he really competes...

    I think he is gonna hustle throughout the season... put up good numbers ...earn a reputation and escape to LA for a fat contract..

    why should he waste time with men such as MAc and Yao who fail to compete every night..
     
  8. the_hustler

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    DD ... i just COMPLETELY AGREE with you here.. talk about hitting nails on coffins.

    and i strongly believe that Ron is quitting houston after this year if this continues..
     
  9. durvasa

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    I think Mutombo was a big locker room presence for this team the last few years. Obviously he's not going to be a big on court presence, but maybe he's the guy who can help motivate everybody.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Posted this in another thread, but I think this might help the team overall:

    As starters, here are Brooks and Rafer's stats.

    Rafer Alston stats link

    FG% .363
    3pt% .359
    Apg 4.81
    Turnovers 1.73
    Ass to Turnover ratio 2.78 to 1
    FT% .796
    RPG 3.3
    Record as a starter 15-11 .577 winning percentage

    Aaron Brooks Stats link

    FG% .427
    3pt% .424
    APG 4.5
    Turnovers 1.5
    Assist to turnover ratio 3.00-1
    FT% .889
    RPG 4.7
    Record as a starter 5-1 .833 Winning percentage

    For the love of pete, start Brooks.

    DD
     
  11. the_hustler

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    this is what we thought we Battier was out.. what is happening now?
     
  12. BrooksBall

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    Sorry, that kind of made me laugh. I imagined some kind of ridiculous conversation:


    Rick: Tracy, I'm gonna be blunt here. You're acting like a walking vagina.

    Daryl: He's right, Tracy. What's going on? You're moping around like a little beeatch recently.

    Tracy: I don't know. I don't know, man. It's on me. It's on me.

    Rick (looking frustrated to hear Tracy spewing classic Tracy lines): Hey Daryl, can you go get Ron?

    Daryl: Be right back.

    (moment of silence then Ron enters)

    Ron: What's up guys? *sniff* *sniff* What's that smell? Is that your vagina, Tracy? *everybody laughs, including Tracy* I'm just playin, man. What's goin on?

    Rick: We're trying to figure out what we can do about the $20 million vagina over here.

    Ron: It's all good. It's all good. I'll just put the team on my back. Tru Warier, baby.

    Tracy: Thanks, Ron. I'll try to play harder from now on, guys.

    Rick: (mumbles) Bullsh!t.

    Daryl: (rolls eyes and shakes head)

    Ron: (eyes grow wide as he thinks about his opportunity to step up in his contract year)

    Tracy: Umm... coach, I won't be able to play tonight though. My puzzy hurts.

    Adelman and Morey sigh and leave without saying a word.

    Artest walks out with $$ in his eyes.

    Tracy chuckles for some unknown reason.
     
  13. Nolocke

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    Those numbers don't lie. We really need to get rid of Alston, he has been horrible since the Cleveland game and he doesn't know when to stop shooting on a bad night especially when each posession is so crucial in a close game. If they don't have enough faith in Brooks then we need to bring in a high percentage and high assist point guard. Someone who can find the right guy to make the shot and someone who can make a shot or drill a dagger on any given night. Consistency is priceless in the NBA.
     
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    Yao looked like he spent the whole night playing WoW without sleep.
    T-mac looked like he was forced to play by the management and fans.
    Artest tried hard but he is just not good enough!

    I m really down with this team now. Playoff? Yes! 1st Round Exit? Looks like it! :(
     
  15. cjstukenholtz

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    I've taken a look at the Rockets' team splits, and so far, their combined record vs. the current last-place teams is currently 5-3. One of those wins (vs. the Kings) came while Rafer was out with his hamstring injury.

    I just wonder if the inferior teams who come to play the Rockets really feel confident they can beat them given their tendencies to play down to the level of their inferior competition in games this season? Do the inferior teams who play the Rockets like how they compete? Interesting.
     
  16. JeopardE

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    I sometimes wonder if we're all watching the same games. Last night's game was pretty much even until Artest came in off the bench. As soon as he launched his first ill-advised shot, the Rockets began their plunge into a 10 point deficit, well catalyzed by his three or four straight boneheaded turnovers that very clearly showed that he was rather unfocused and lackadaisical about the game. Then later, he tried to do his usual 4th quarter heroics hoping that he could save the day again.

    After the game, they showed two locker room interviews, one with Rafer, and the second with Artest. Rafer was right on point: "this was embarassing and terrible. People paid money to come watch us play and we didn't even bother to show up. Washington didn't really do anything -- all they had to do was show up and they won." Artest's response? "I'll take this loss. Everyone has ups and downs, you win some, you lose some."

    Really? "I'll take this loss"?

    Of course, no one's going to be paying attention, since Artest is still enjoying his honeymoon and McGrady is still the season's designated scapegoat.
     
  17. northeastfan

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    You probably play harder than TMac does and he gets paid millions ....
     
  18. Big MAK

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    Couldnt agree more. They play like the only reason they are out there is to get paid. Doesnt even look like they like what they are doing half the time.
     
  19. JBIIRockets

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    I heard Bill Worrell the other night, it might have been the Cleveland game, say "McGrady just isn't into it tonight."

    That's depressing to me as a long time Rockets fan. You never heard Worrell say that about Hakeem. He doesn't even say that about Yao.

    I for one am sick of McGrady's up and down games during the regular season. He's overpaid. He's not a chemistry player. He plays hard one night and not the next. That's not the attitude you want your leader to have.

    The Rockets could very well catch fire and win 56 games this season, and they will perhaps make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs finally, and lose.....and I still think I wouldn't resign McGrady to an extension. His "drama" during the regular season hampers this team. Use that extra money on Bibby.

    Not being kobe is one thing, but missing games every so often each year is another. At least show up and play your best every night.
     
  20. ferrarif1286

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    Tracy mclady can come ball at WCBA. Yeah you heard right Women china basketball association. Even CBA plays too rough for him and his fragile little body
     

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