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I Hate Casserly!!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Bobblehead, Dec 10, 2005.

  1. Rocketman95

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    Comparing Bush to Alcindor at this point in their careers is ludicrous. Not to mention the whole comparing two different sports.
     
  2. RocketFan007

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    As good as Sanders was, his Lion teams were never anything but mediocre. One player doesn't win games in the NFL, it takes a complete team, and this team needs ALOT of help.
     
  3. Stack24

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    And we all know how that turned out...he couldn't take it anymore and retired way before his time was up...

    If you take Bush then you better spend all the rest of your picks on some OL or trade some players on your team that you have no to get some OL becuase without it no matter how good Bush really is he will end up getting hurt or gaining an average amount of yards on this Texans team.

    You don't have time for Carr to throw so they will just keep putting 8 in the box and then what?
     
  4. RIET

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    Using your example, would you rather have Michael Vick or Leonard Davis and Dan Morgan?

    Would you rather have LaDanian Tomlisnon or Leonard Davis and Dan Morgan?

    Yes Detroit never did anything but that was due to piss poor management - not Barry Sanders.
     
  5. Bobblehead

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    I don't trust CC trading Bush for draft picks!!!
    I don't trust CC's evaluation of talent.

    Bush can make a difference right from the beginning.
    Bush is a playmaker....and you don't get a chance at those type of players often.

    Would the Rockets have taken MJ iver Hakeem knowing what we know now??
    Hell yeah!!!!!

    Yes...Bush can be a bust...but what makes anyone think he will?

    All I'm saying is, you don't pass on franchise playmakers when you have a chance!!!!

    Am I going to quit on the Texans?? NO!! BUT...they won't see a penny from me.

    Bush will put fans in the seats and jeresy's on fans backs...NOBODY else in the draft will! NOBODY!!!
     
  6. Bobblehead

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    MMMMMM....maybe with CC we have no chance at all anyway!!!!!!
     
  7. RocketJedi

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    That's not so. He has done well at blitz pickup since teams throw so many exotic blitzes at Leinart in the passing game. He doesn't need to be a left tackle, just chip the blitzer to give the QB a chance to make his throw. I think this is a weak part of Double D's game, as good as he is. I'm not saying we must take Bush, because we can go in any number of ways, but Bush can do more than score TD's.

     
  8. RocketFan007

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    It depends on what team we're talking about, what they had at each position and what they needed. Hawk is drawing comparisons to Ray Lewis, and would greatly improve our defense. Ferguson is rated as a franchise LT, something that we've been in dire need of for our entire existence. I think the team is better served if they got one of those guys plus an extra first day pick, and a first rounder next year. We already have a very good NFL RB, we need help at every other position on the field.

    BTW, I never said that it was Sanders fault that the Lions were a mediocre team. I'm just stating that as good as he was, they were never a really good team. Getting Reggie Bush doesn't make this team a playoff team overnight. They need a number of significant upgrades.
     
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  9. RIET

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    Hawk looks much more like Dan Morgan than Ray Lewis.

    Of the can't miss "franchise" OL of the past few drafts, none have dominated.

    Gallery has really struggled, Gross has been somewhat inconsistent, Mike Williams is terrible, and Leonard Davis is an enigma.

    Also, we should be able to pick up a pretty good OL in the 2nd, 3rd, and even 4th round, especially given the fact we have the first choice in each of those rounds.
     
  10. VesceySux

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    If you go for the sexy pick every freaking draft, you'll end up like the Lions of late. We need building blocks. These "best college player EVAH" franchise saviors come out every year. Besides we have Domanick Davis (remember him?), who currently has 837 yards (4.0 ypc) behind pretty much the crappiest NFL O-line EVAH and is on pace to break 1,000 yards again for the 3rd straight year (and he's been in the NFL... wait for it... 3 years).
     
  11. ron413

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    i can understand how he can't comment on bush, and he should say good things about davis because he has been a good running back....but casserly is a big enough dumbass to not pick bush and draft leinart and trade carr for a 4th round pick, and then use that pick on some loser defensive lineman that "fits our scheme". i agree casserly is a complete moron but unless the owner gets rid of him, the texans are stuck with whatever bonehead moves he makes....to go along with all his other bonehead moves.
     
  13. RIET

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    Im pretty sure Bush will be the best prospect since Michael Vick.

    Neither Alex Smith nor David Carr were considered franchise saviors - just players in a weak draft.

    Actually, in a way, this may help the franchise. Building blocks take time. Taking an OL here, a LB will not produce immediate results. We'll lose again next year and look just as bad.

    In the meanwhile, Casserly will have to explain why we passed on Bush.

    When he rationalizes we have a lot of holes to fill - the holes he helped create with his piss poor performance as general manager- logically, that should be the final straw.

    We hope.
     
  14. swilkins

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    I hope it doesn't come down to that. I want Casserly gone after this season.
     
  15. RIET

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    The interesting thing is the Texans had a lot more holes to fill when we decided to draft David Carr who was not even on the radar screen until his senior season.

    I was in favor of trading down to start the franchise and stockpile the building blocks.

    However, Bob McNair saw Carr, the wholesome All-American boy, as a potential fan favorite to create a buzz. He certainly was not rated as a can't miss prospect.

    To make things worse, prior to the season, they were committed to keeping him safe and protected rather than throwing him into the fire.

    Somehow that all changed - once again, probably to create a "buzz" with the new franchise.

    Now, after about a million sacks later and the availability of the most dynamic player to come around in years, Casserly wants to add the building blocks?
     
  16. Stack24

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    Im starting to think more and more that they might take Bush for the selling and marketing part of it. Not only is he an immense talent but the fact that it will bring people back to the stadium is a big thing Mcnair wants.

    Getting building blocks don't bring fans back. They have to see them win again before they come and spend money.

    However much like Yao Ming, you draft someone like Bush that has so much hype and BOOM your back filling the seats with everyone waiting for a highlight reel and buying his Jersey.

    I really wonder how much of that thought goes into drafting a player like Him...who will be posterized everywhere bringing revenue and exposure to your team?
     
  17. swilkins

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    This is so true. I hope McNair thinks about it. Bush would immediately generate revenue.
     
  18. gucci888

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    We aren't underrating Bush, but we also aren't overrating him and saying "he can take us to the playoffs next season." That's a pretty bold statement and I don't even think Bush himself would agree with it. We have way too many holes to fill before we are playoff bound.
     
  19. gucci888

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    I agree that we wouldn't be drafting Bush for his pass blocking skills, but out of the many USC games I've seen this year, Bush does very little blocking, if any.

    When Bush is in the game, he is either running it, flaring out of the backfield, or lining up at slot receiver. He very rarely stays back and blocks, that's what L. White does, he's either running it up the gut or blocking.

    Bush would be worth the #1 pick, I don't think anyone will disagree with that. But if you could get a top 5 pick, another 1st and 2nd, you would be a fool not to consider it. The only knock I have on Bush is that he has never been a workhorse RB, he never runs between the tackles (with his speed, he doesn't really need to). Bush could definitely be the next Barry Sanders, but don't forget that those Lion teams were mediocre at best and that he didn't last long.
     
  20. RIET

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    Barry Sanders is the 3rd leading rusher of all time.
     

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